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Re: SV: API for RDF: locutor

From: Jean-Marc Vanel <jmvanel@free.fr>
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:18:29 +0100
Message-ID: <38C81524.595FD021@free.fr>
To: Greg FitzPatrick <gf@medianet.org>
Cc: Jeff Sussna <jeff.sussna@quokka.com>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org, Jean Marc VANEL <jean-marc_vanel@effix.fr>
Here is what I found at :
http://www.francophonie.hachette-livre.fr/


     locuteur, trice n.

         LING Sujet parlant. -- Personne qui parle (par oppos. à auditeur
     ). -- Locuteur de
         l'espéranto: personne qui parle l'espéranto.

a definition that I translate this way:

locutor    n.

    LING Speaking Subject. -- Person who speaks (as opposed to auditor ). --
example: Locutor of
    espéranto: a person speaking espéranto.


I apologize because it doesn't seem to exist in english (although it is of latin
origin), at least on :
http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict
http://vancouver-webpages.com/wordnet/

I also tried (also inexistant):
enonciator

Someone in this wrote "model origin". But it is likely that you application
could merge several models, so each statement has an origin.

So why not "statement origin" ?


Greg FitzPatrick a écrit :

> Might I ask the origin of the word "locuter"?
>
> Greg
>
> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> > Från: www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:www-rdf-interest-request@w3.org]För Jeff Sussna
> > Skickat: den 7 mars 2000 20:48
> > Till: 'Jean-Marc Vanel'; www-rdf-interest@w3.org; Jean Marc VANEL
> > Ämne: RE: API for RDF: locutor
> >
> > A very interesting point. I think you have identified another in a whole
> > universe of issues RDF doesn't explicitly address,

A whole universe!
A would not be so pessimistic!


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jean-Marc Vanel [mailto:jmvanel@free.fr]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 11:43 PM
> > To: www-rdf-interest@w3.org; Jean Marc VANEL
> > Subject: API for RDF: locutor
> >
> >
> > David Megginson <david@megginson.com> write on 2000-02-25 :
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's not about triples.  The only way to discover the
> > true RDF data model is to reverse-engineer it from the XML, and it
> > turns out that there are at least six components (not three) in each
> > statement:
> >
> >   subject
> >   subjectType (global id, local id, URI pattern)
> >   predicate
> >   object
> >   objectType (literal text, literal XML markup, reference)
> >   objectLang
> >
> >
> > These are not simply syntactic artifacts -- it's information that
> > *must* be exposed through any RDF API ...
> >
> > There's yet another very important item that is implicit in any RDF set of
> > descriptions: it's the locutor. ....................

> > The obvious design solution is that the locutor IS the URL (not URI here!)

> > where our RDF
> > set of descriptions appears in.
> >
> > So if a Web site S1 says about someone:
> >
> >
> > <looks>ugly</looks>
> >
> >
> > And another Web site S2 says about the same person:
> >
> >
> > <looks>handsome</looks>
> >
> >
> > My RDF application can decide, with a knowledge of which of
> > locutors  S1 and
> > S2 is trusted most.

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