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RE: Peering over the edge of the RDF cliff

From: Jeff Sussna <jeff.sussna@quokka.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:23:57 -0800
Message-ID: <E19A882C6CD5D211A8A70008C75B6AF40122CCE7@pcmail.quokka.com>
To: "'caro@Adobe.COM'" <caro@Adobe.COM>, Jeff Sussna <jeff.sussna@quokka.com>
Cc: "'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
I have not abandoned the RDF syntax. My example was legal RDF. I did
consider an abbreviation that is analogous to your example below, which
would look like:

	<Asset ID="foo.html">
		<Property ID="author">
			<object resource="Fred"/>
		</Property>
	</Asset>

There are still two objects (foo.html and author), just one is embedded
inside the other. By the way, in your typednode example, you have a property
(author), and a subject (foo.html), but no object.

The one thing that is most definitely lost is any ability to do schema
validation. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry A. Caro [mailto:caro@Adobe.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 12:59 PM
To: Jeff Sussna
Cc: 'www-rdf-interest@w3.org'
Subject: Re: Peering over the edge of the RDF cliff


Well, gee, if you're willing to abandon the syntax altogether, you won't
mind some hacks that are at least compatible with the RDF syntax, if not the
model.

One option I've considered for this problem is to make the resource URL be a
literal, and then qualify the value to let people know that I really meant
it to be a resource:

<rdf:Description ...>
	<Property rdf:ID="author" rdf:parseType='Resource'>
		<rdf:value>foo.html</rdf:value>
		<valueType>resource</valueType>
	</Property>
</rdf:Description>

Acutally, if you mean for Property to be a type, a typedNode might be
better:

<Property rdf:ID="author" rdf:value="foo.html" valueType="resource"/>

This really makes your Property first class, and only creates one "object".

Another option is to use the parseType='Literal' escape-hatch and encode
whatever you want in the value:

<rdf:Description ...>
	<Property rdf:ID="author" rdf:parseType='Literal'>
		<subject resource='foo.html'/>
		<object resource='Fred'/>
	</Property>
</rdf:Description>

This means that inferencing based on the pure unextended RDF model won't
work, but heck, it wouldn't work on your custom syntax anyway.  By hacking
the model but sticking with the RDF syntax, you at least maintain some
amount of interoperability.

Perry
Received on Wednesday, 5 January 2000 17:23:41 GMT

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