Re: Comments on history system descriptive note

On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 02:46:26PM +0100, Seaborne, Andy wrote:
> 
> > but depending on the reader to collapse nodes with identical URL's
> 
> I don't understand this.  You can't have two nodes with the same URIs in an
> RDF graph.
> 

Of course not.  What I mean is that in N3 notation you have to 
compare URI's in your mind (collapse them) to visualize (some of) 
the relationships expressed in the document.  

> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Smathers [mailto:ks@micky.hpl.hp.com] 
> Sent: 8 May 2003 15:44
> To: Butler, Mark
> Cc: (www-rdf-dspace@w3.org)
> Subject: Re: Comments on history system descriptive note
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:26:17AM +0100, Butler, Mark wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/Examples
> > 
> > So my suggestion here would be perhaps SIMILE as a project should adopt N3
> > rather than RDF/XML for documentation. However this means everyone needs
> to
> > invest a small amount of time understanding it. However I think we are
> > better using N3 rather than graphs as once you start to deal with anything
> > complicated, it's impossible to make printed versions of RDF graphs
> > readable.  
> > 
> 
> Really?  I haven't experienced any problems using graphs to represent
> graphs.  What kinds of problems have you experienced that are easier
> to understand as N3 than as graphs.
> 
> I consider the graph of an RDF document to be analogous to UML for a
> class inheritance diagram.  It isn't impossible to navigate the text
> version, but it is much easier to understand the UML.  Even the link
> 'http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/Examples' uses graphs to explain N3.
> 
> A browseable N3 representation might approach the usability of plain
> graphs, but depending on the reader to collapse nodes with identical
> URL's makes it difficult for me to read either XML or N3 notation.
> 
> Cheers,
> -kls
> 
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