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RE: ungetable http URIs

From: Seaborne, Andy <Andy_Seaborne@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:22:33 -0000
Message-ID: <E864E95CB35C1C46B72FEA0626A2E808712DE9@0-mail-br1.hpl.hp.com>
To: "'karger@theory.lcs.mit.edu'" <karger@theory.lcs.mit.edu>, matsakis@mit.edu
Cc: stefano@apache.org, www-rdf-dspace@w3.org

-------- Original Message --------
> From: David R. Karger <mailto:karger@theory.lcs.mit.edu>
> Date: 4 December 2003 19:13
> I wouldn't restrict "gettability" to things with bits.  And even if
> the thing is bits, I wouldn't _require_ that GETs return those bits.
> I would be satisfied if all gettable URLs provided _some useful_
> information about the named object, without worrying whether it is
> complete.

I agree - GET returns a representation of a web resource.  It is not
contracted to return a copy of the resource (the resouirce need not be
bits).  A "representation" is stronger than saying "some useful information"
as it is assumed to be useful as the resource in the web context.  In RDF, a

      <url> :hasSize "2056 bytes"  .

can not be applied to a person.


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>    From: Nick Matsakis <matsakis@mit.edu>
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>    On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>    > If I got to vote, I would vote +1 for "getable" URIs because I
>    think > that they don't add complexity, they are consistent with the
>    general > XML movement, and they are potentially more valuable in
> the future. 
>    If I got to vote, I would say 'getable' URIs should be assigned to
>    things that can be expressed as bits, or things that are elements of
>    RDF schemas (e.g. if you come across something with an RDF type you
>    don't recognize, it would be nice if there was a schema saying
>    something that type at a conveniently retrivable URL).
>    I think things that don't meet those requirements should get
>    ungetable URIs.
>    Nick
Received on Friday, 5 December 2003 09:23:40 EST

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