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RE: [Gosp_John] John 14 (Many Mansions- III)

From: Stephen McIntosh <sgmci@surfbest.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 23:22:26 -0400
To: <gospel_of_john@yahoogroups.com>
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Hi Rory,

What exactly do you mean by "one's state at His return"? Do you mean if they
are physically dead, but saved?

Thanks,

Stephen McIntosh
Boston

-----Original Message-----
From: Rory Egan [mailto:egan_rory@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:50 PM
To: gospel_of_john@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Gosp_John] John 14 (Many Mansions- III)


Andrew
My reference was to John 14 and that of Mansions, I believe that 1 Peter 2
refers to the body(church) in this present age as stated. But in John 14
Jesus refers to the future in the next verse V3 " And if I go and prepare a
place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I
am, [there] ye may be also. This to me refers to His second coming when we
will all be changed, or risen . All depending on ones state at His return,
and it is those bodies I am referring to.

Forever in His Grace.....Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Andrew Bowen PhD [mailto:bowenphd@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:25 PM
To: gospel_of_john@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Gosp_John] John 14 (Many Mansions- III)

Rory,

You seem to be reading something into 1Peter 2 that is not there when I read
it.  Maybe you should point out how this only applies to only a glorified
body in some future reality.

Regards,

Andrew Bowen
Santa Monica, CA

On 9/7/03 11:33 AM, "Rory Egan" <egan_rory@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew I would have like to see this taken a little further, I agree with
> your premises that the mansions spoken of, or (abode) speaks of the
> communion that will eternally exist with God and the transformed Humanity
in
> His Son. The only other place that this word is used is in The same
chapter
> verse 23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep
> my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make
> our (abode) with him.
>  Realizing the magnitude that would be needed to give our God a place for
> His (abode) I can see why the translators used the word Mansions. So too
> Jesus after His resurrection showed a preview of the new bodies that are
> being prepared for us , in that He in this new Spiritual body could walk
> through walls or instantly appear. In relation to our present body's being
> now our temporary homes, on that day our new ones will be like Mansions in
> comparison.
>
> Forever in His Grace..........Rory



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