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Draft minutes of April 26 2004 teleconference

From: Patrick Curran <Patrick.Curran@Sun.COM>
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 07:32:49 -0700
To: QAWG <www-qa-wg@w3.org>
Message-id: <40965811.1020909@sun.com>

QA Working Group Teleconference
Wednesday, 26-April-2004
--
Scribe: Patrick Curran

Attendees:

(PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems)
(DD) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon)
(KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, WG co-chair)         
(DH) Dominique HazaŽl-Massieux (W3C)        
(LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO - WG co-chair)    
(MS) Mark Skall (NIST)                 
(AT) Andrew Thackrah (Open Group)

Guest:

(DM) David Marston (IBM)            

Regrets:

(MC) Martin Chamberlain (Microsoft)        
(LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST - IG co-chair)
(VV) Vanitha Venkatraman (Sun Microsystems)    


Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2004Apr/0072.html
Previous Telcon Minutes: 
hhttp://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2004Apr/0079.html

1.) roll call 11am EDT, membership

2.) routine business
        - Future telecons  [0]  (3-may?)
   QAH and SpecGL
   Logistics for June f2f - Patrick to circulate logistics
   CR issues 1-26 circulated for past few weeks now considered closed 
(no comments received)
   

3.) QAF 4/29 publication
        - Titles?
        - SpecLite update (LR)
        - TestLite update (PC)
        - QAH update (LH)
        - glossary update (MS/KD)
        - QAH publication permission (AI to ?)
        - BH comments on "you"

We aren't going to be able to publish next week. Spec is partial, Test 
is only in outline form.
Should we publish even if we are at different levels of completion?
Patrick: how about publishing handbook only, and not the others?
Lofton: or, publish all, even if incomplete? Goal is to show people what 
we will publish when
  we're complete - we need to show we're making progress
Dom: an outline with links showing overall structure would be OK
Lofton: is it OK not to be fully synchronized?
Dom: It's OK, so long as we don't go to last call unsynchronized
Patrick: We could give ourselves a few more weeks until things are in 
better shape
Dom: We could publish after the moratorium - May 25
Lofton: plan for publication on 1st day after moratorium, and go for 
aggressive feedback
  Try to stick to original deadline: relatively complete introduction 
and outline this week?
Mark: no progress on glossary this week
Lofton: AI to ask Karl to request publication permission


4.) TestLite draft review
        -- Ref: [2]

5.) QAH draft review
        - third editors draft  [3]
        - flagged embedded issues [3]

Title: just "QA Handbook"
Resolution on "fuzzy phrases" outlined in pink - take this to email
Intro/Roadmap: Five stories - should they be left here, or distributed 
throughout the document?
  Dom/David: would prefer to distribute if possible, but do we have too 
many here?
  Lofton: would link from here to the relevant sections in the document
  Consensus: leave them here, seek feedback
Day to day operations: name the actual team in the story or keep it 
anonymous?
  Mark: as a matter of policy should we do so? This could cause issues?
  Patrick: beware putting words into peoples' mouths
  Agreed: keep this anonymous
QA Process Document: should we point to examples as an alternative to 
the QAPD?
  Consensus: no - template should be the union of good practice
Sections 3.2 and 3.3: most of this stuff belongs in Test Guidelines - 
simply point to it
  Agreed: don't duplicate test
Licensing & Branding: should we point to a separate "hints and tips" 
document? No - just
  try to summarize the issues here. Agreed: keep references to JR 
discussion, not that
  this is still ongoing.
Acquiring test materials: needs work. Not yet really a "story". Lofton 
will flesh this out
TM Quality Assessment Checklist/Template: take this discussion to email
Transfer checklist discussion: should we keep this? Consensus: yes - 
such checklists are
  very useful
Appendix: has been rewritten; suggestion - point to these sections from 
the introduction


6.) Adjourn

7.) Overflow (12-12:30): available.
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