Re: [ARCH] two minor issues in current MMI-Arch spec

I have an update on my comment on the mmi element which is used qualified.
It was *my mistake* not to consider the difference between global and local
elements.
Global elements as mmi always have to be used qualified, regardless of the
value of
elementFormDefault. Thats why the examples given are valid regarding this
point.

I am sorry for the confusion.

Regards,
Jakob.

2011/5/16 Jim Barnett <Jim.Barnett@alcatel-lucent.com>

>  Jacob,
>
> We accept your comments and will update the specification accordingly.
> Thank you for the careful and detailed review that you have given the
> specification.
>
>
>
> -          Jim Barnett
>
>
>
> *From:* www-multimodal-request@w3.org [mailto:
> www-multimodal-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Jakob Sachse
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:48 AM
>
> *To:* www-multimodal@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ARCH] two minor issues in current MMI-Arch spec
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have been rechecking my findings and found another point that i would
>
> like to comment on.
>
>
>
> In contrast to what i wrote in my prior mail, not all .xsd files in
> Appendix C
>
> have attributeFormDefault and elementFormDefault set.
>
>
>
> - mmi.xsd (Appendix C.1)
>
>
>
> Neither has elementFormDefault = "qualified" on the schema element
>
> nor form="qualified" on the mmi-element definition set. Since
>
> "unqualified" is the default value all mmi elements are to be used
> unqualified only.
>
> This, as far as I know, makes most of the examples invalid as they
>
> use the mmi element in a qualified way.
>
>
>
> - mmi-datatypes.xsd (Appendix C.2)
>
>
>
> Does not have attributeFormDefault nor elementFormDefault set. Which makes
>
> it being set to the default value "unqualified". Types and Attributes
> defined in this
>
> xsd will have to be used without namespace prefix. But other .xsd documents
> (e.g.
>
> mmi-attribs.xsd (Appendix C.3)) reference them with prefix.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am not a great expert on the XML Schema spec but I think someone should
> look into
>
> this. One thing I had to find out (while investigating my findings) was
> that
>
> elementFormDefault and attributeFormDefault won't get inherited by child
> documents
>
> included in the parent documents.
>
>
>
> Any comments are welcome!
>
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Jakob.
>
>
>
> 2011/3/27 Jakob Sachse <jakobsa@gmail.com>
>
> Hallo,
>
> I have been reviewing the current specification. Even though it yet makes
> quite a mature impression I found some flaws that may should be revised.
>
> The .xsd files in Appendix C require a valid mmi-representation to have
> qualified attributes.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> attributeFormDefault="qualified"
> elementFormDefault="qualified"
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Given that it seems Appendix B is not in line with the spec.
> Examples there  (see exerpt below)  are not using qualified attributes.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> <mmi:newContextRequest source="someURI" target="someOtherURI"
> requestID="request-1">
> </mmi:newContextRequest>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On the other side examples in Appendix E are valid to the xsd definition:
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> <mmi:startRequest mmi:requestID="1.237204761416E12"
> mmi:context="IM_dcc3c320-9e88-44fe-b91d-02bd02fba1e3"
> mmi:target="GUI">
>  <mmi:contentURL>login</mmi:contentURL>
>  <mmi:data>
>    <gui resourceid="login" xml:lang="de-DE">
>      <data id="back" enabled="false"/>
>      <data id="next" enabled="false"/>
>    </gui>
>  </mmi:data>
> </mmi:startRequest>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Another minor issue I came across was that in Appendix F.2 the spec states:
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> [...]The parameter timeout is optional and describes the maximum delay
> in milliseconds.[...]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Whereas the following sequence diagrams are using seconds as time unit.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> timeout:
> e.g. 30 sec
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> That's what I came across so far. Overall it is fair to say that the
> working draft makes a good impression on me.
>
>
> Regards,
> Jakob Sachse.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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