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RE: Proposal: Values for UAProf properties

From: Vidhya Gholkar <vidhya.gholkar@argogroup.com>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:06:41 +0100
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It is important to realise that UAProf is not a mandatory portion of the
specification. Manufacturers have been at pains to ensure that they do
the mandatory bits before they work out the optional bits. This is
partly why we are just starting to see UAProf phones appearing. There
are 4 major browser manufacturer's that have implemented UAProf, others
have indicated they too will do that. What individuals do within a
specific group does not necessarily represent the eventual view of a
company, for example whatever happens within a WG still needs to go
through a number of other stages (groups) before approval (companies
exert their influence all the way up to the board of directors level).
So it is not true to say that 'other players excelled through their

UAProf is being built on by extensions within other working groups. In
Anchorage September 2001 the working group took the decision to put it
to WAG that the charter had been met. Most of the issues that were being
put to the group had little to do with UAProf and more to do with RDF
and CC/PP - and fundamentally it was felt they were out of scope(The WAP
forum prefers not to duplicate activity and its borrows when it can).
This was approved in Dec 2001. The UAProf work however *continues*
inside WAG. When a issue arises, this is where it is dealt with. BTW, it
is normal for WAP forum WG's to dissolve when they have met their
objectives - that does not mean the spec is dead. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Geach [mailto:Steven.Geach@elata.com]
Sent: 30 May 2002 08:55
To: www-mobile@w3.org
Subject: RE: Proposal: Values for UAProf properties


I echo Carl's statement:

In general we're not certain how much support for UAProf is really out
there from the device manufacturer's point of view. Ericsson was clearly
the leader, but most other players excelled through their silence on the

How committed are manufacturer's to UAProf, can they really see any 
'personal gain' by using it?

Producing a UAProf for their own device's and making it available via 
the web is really not that big a deal, why isnt there more take-up of 
the idea?

If manufacturer's don't buy-in to the idea will UAProf become an 
exception rather than a rule?

Any comments please.



Steven Geach
Software Engineer
Received on Thursday, 30 May 2002 05:07:34 UTC

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