Re: is CC/PP worth using

Answer: Join the working group and make the method you want the standard!

Seriously, I do not think we have worked it out yet. Check the WAP spec, maybe
they have and we could just use their protocol ;-)

Johan

Sandeep K Gain wrote:

> thanx johan for your valuable comments
>
> Just one more question , if you don't mind :)
> Is it expected from the origin servers that they will parse for profile and
> profile-diff HTTP extension headers , even when a GET or a POST request is
> sent , instead of the M-GET and M-POST as in the HTTP extension framework?
> In brief , how do the origin servers know that CC/PP is being sent(in
> absence of HTTPex) .. May be its a very trivial question , but still ...
>
> thanx & regards,
> Sandeep
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Hjelm [mailto:johan.hjelm@era-t.ericsson.se]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: sandeep.gain@riverrun.com
> Cc: www-mobile@w3.org
> Subject: Re: is CC/PP worth using
>
> Actually, I was just made aware that the WAP UAPROF spec, chapter 9,
> contains
> just such a protocol. You will have to look it up, it looks really weird
> when I
> try to copy and paste from Word. But it looks like it takes care of Marks
> comments.
>
> As for the future of CC/PP, I am of course biased. Yes, we will rule the
> world
> and eat the cake, too. However, all legacy servers will never implement all
> new
> technologies. That will never happen. So you can not expect total
> penetration.
>
> As an aside, I am increasingly convinced about the value of the approach
> using a
> default with overrides. Of course, you need a structure like CC/PP to keep
> stuff
> in. But I participate in discussions in lots of other places, and the
> approach
> keeps getting validated.
>
> Concerning the vocabulary, the answer is "maybe". The attributes are there,
> and
> things like screensize and colour are not specific to WAP. However, you
> would
> have to look at it yourself to say whether it covered all your needs. I was
> just
> in a teleconference with another group in our company, who is adding a set
> of
> attributes in a namespace of their own in a standard they are producing (you
> may
> find out when it is finished). So that is a viable option, but I agree with
> Lalitha that you need the support of an organization for it to be accepted.
>
> Hope that answers the question
> Johan
>
> Sandeep K Gain wrote:
>
> > folks,
> >   First a general background on what I am up to.
> >
> > I am developing a server that generates content according to the HTTP
> > User-Agent header information.
> > We have got our own browser sort of application running on Palm and
> > WindowsCE based devices .
> > The application running on these devices request content from my server
> and
> > I generate content according to them . The content sent to them currently
> is
> > XHTML.
> > In future we wish our application gets content from all sites on the
> > internet.
> > Now we wish to get hardware/software/application specific information from
> > the client and then generate the content according to that .
> > so far , its fine .
> >
> > Now, if we implement CC/PP , we will be able to have our application
> > runnning , as the server will understand the CC/PP information.
> > My question is should we really use CC/PP , becoz if all that is to be
> done
> > is just to pass this information, then we can pass this in our own
> protocol
> > (which we have).
> > Is CC/PP here to stay , i mean are we anticipating that most of the
> internet
> > sites will gradually become CC/PP aware.
> > Can CC/PP be implemented over HTTP without using the HTTPex framework?
> > And is UAProf vocabulary sufficient , or is it just for WAP applications.I
> > mean, I wish to use UAProf vocab for CC/PP from my Palm and WindowsCE
> based
> > applications , can i do so?
> >
> > your insightful comments please
> > regards,
> > sandeep
>
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>      Ericsson Research Japan
>
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