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Re: WAP Competitors ?

From: Andrew Scott <a.scott@trl.telstra.com.au>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:54:19 +1100
To: Gary Adams - SMI Software Development <gra@zeppo.East.Sun.COM>
Cc: dcb@white-mountains.net, sandeep@wde.org, mimasa@w3.org, www-mobile@w3.org
Message-ID: <20000307085418.A14056@brahma.trl.OZ.AU>
On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:34:12PM -0500, Gary Adams - SMI Software Development wrote:
> Basic XHTML is the point of convergence that allows HDML -> WML 1.2 
> (XML compliant) content converge with the Compact HTML ->imode 
> (HTML 2.0+ subset) applicaions.

Perhaps or perhaps not.

There are at least two distinct hurdles to be overcome:
* The use of 'variables' in WML
* Conflicting use of tags in WML and XHTML Basic.

It's more likely that convergence will happen in a future version of
XHTML Basic, I suspect.

> WML has some additional roundtrip saving features, but that is 
> most likely a temporary advantage in today's marketplace.  $.02

Well.. you could say the same about Javascript and HTML.

Andrew Scott .................... http://purl.oclc.org/net/andrewscott/
Telstra Research Labs, Melbourne ......................................

> > Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:19:22 +0000
> > From: Sandeep Hundal <sunny@bluecarrots.com>
> > To: dcb@white-mountains.net
> > CC: Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org>, www-mobile@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: WAP Competitors ?
> > 
> > Hah hah !!
> > 
> > MY sentiments exactly... seems that every vendor has decided to put in
> > their own extensions to HTML and decided to call it something else...
> > 
> > is there any sort of convergence happening ?? I asked this before and it
> > seemed that WML was the best place to go as HDML was going to be phased
> > out... though now I'm not sure with...
> > 
> > I mean whats to stop NTT come to Europe and start launching its I-mode
> > phones, and then we have to learn C-HTML....
> > 
> > Sandeep
> > 
> > Daniel Bertrand wrote:
> > > 
> > > Okay, so HDML, WML, WBXML... This is getting confusing.
> > > Up till now, most manufacturers had UPbrowser, it seems there will be
> > > several to support now.
> > > What should I serve to European clients to be on the safe side? Need to
> > > start coding now!
> > > Daniel Bertrand
> > > http://www.say-parrot.com
> > > 
> > > Masayasu Ishikawa wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Martin J. Duerst" <duerst@w3.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 12:24 00/03/06 +1100, Andrew Scott wrote:
> > > > > > Both WML and compact HTML have been submitted to the W3C as notes. 
> Also,
> > > > > > HDML (basically the predecessor to WML) has also been submitted to the
> > > > > > W3C in the same way. You ought to be able to find these with a search.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please see http://www.w3.org/TR.
> > > >
> > > > Or more conveniently, please look at:
> > > >
> > > >         http://www.w3.org/Mobile/#submissions
> > > >
> > > > Note that unlike WBXML, WML hasn't been submitted to the W3C.
> > > >
> > > > > > There is a formal liaison process between the WAP Forum and the W3C 
> for
> > > > > > converging the standards. I don't think anything similar exists 
> between
> > > > > > NTT and the W3C.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. But NTT is a member of W3C.
> > > >
> > > > More precisely, NTT DoCoMo is also a member of the W3C.  We don't need
> > > > a formal "liaison" process with members.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
> > > > Masayasu Ishikawa / mimasa@w3.org
> > > > W3C - World Wide Web Consortium
Received on Monday, 6 March 2000 17:41:05 UTC

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