From: Paul Libbrecht <paul@hoplahup.net>

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:05:59 +0100

Cc: Vasil Yaroshevich <vyaroshevich@gmail.com>, "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>

Message-Id: <6225508F-B692-4C7C-87A8-E3E1190A5A04@hoplahup.net>

To: J.Fine <j.fine@open.ac.uk>

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:05:59 +0100

Cc: Vasil Yaroshevich <vyaroshevich@gmail.com>, "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>

Message-Id: <6225508F-B692-4C7C-87A8-E3E1190A5A04@hoplahup.net>

To: J.Fine <j.fine@open.ac.uk>

Jonathan, ActiveMath also has an "svn variant" documented at: http://eds.activemath.org/?q=en/AMinstallation/svn-stable Maybe that gives you easier access. The code in ActiveMath is multipurpose (it aims at doing MathML (!), HTML+CSS, and TeX) and is really oriented towards stylesheet generation. But maybe something is doable. I would have to ask the team there. Please make the intents more precise. paul Le 11 f谷vr. 2011 角 17:41, J.Fine a 谷crit : > I've been running some tests with Vasil's code and found that with input MathML generated by blahTeX is can produce the always illegal construction "{\right)}^{2}". For this reason I looked for and found the customisation that Paul referred to. (A bit hard to find, and I didn't see how to get it without an 82Mb download.) > http://www.activemath.org/downloads/activemath-1.0.1-src.tgz > > Anyway, I'll be doing further work in this area and would be delighted if Vasil, Paul and anyone else who's interested would join me. Most likely I'll do this by starting an open-source project on bitbucket. > > Jonathan > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: www-math-request@w3.org >> [mailto:www-math-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Paul Libbrecht >> Sent: 22 January 2011 09:02 >> To: Vasil Yaroshevich >> Cc: www-math@w3.org >> Subject: Re: Converting MathML to text (and TeX/LaTeX) >> >> Vasil, >> >> just for your information, ActiveMath's rendering is based on >> this stylesheet. >> It has been strongly adjusted, since it is used to process >> notations that contain mathml and that generate stylesheets >> that generate html+css, tex, and mathml. See, e.g.: >> http://www.activemath.org/Software/Notations >> >> paul >> >> >> Le 21 janv. 2011 角 13:01, Vasil Yaroshevich a 谷crit : >> >>> I've written stylesheets for converting mathml formulas >> into latex notation: >>> xsltml.sourceforge.net >>> >>> but now I don't support it. >>> >>> May be it will be iteresting for you. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, J.Fine <j.fine@open.ac.uk> wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I've got another question. Unless it's already done I >> need to write tools that convert MathML to text (for reading >> out loud) and to TeX/LaTeX (for typesetting). >>>> >>>> If possible I'd like to make use of existing work. Please >> let me know of any errors or omissions (especially omissions) >> in the following list. >>>> >>>> http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000306.html ("I >>>> guess I've asked this before, but are you aware of any tools for >>>> converting itex/LaTeX/MathML to text?") >>>> >>>> >>>> >> http://devblog.cnx.org/2010/08/epub-development-details.html ("EPUB >>>> readers do not support MathML, so the obvious solution was >> to convert >>>> simple MathML to text and convert all of the more complex >> MathML to >>>> images.") >>>> >>>> (And see also >>>> >> https://trac.rhaptos.org/trac/rhaptos/wiki/TechnicalDocumentation/Cod >>>> e/EPUB >>>> >> https://trac.rhaptos.org/trac/rhaptos/browser/mathml2/trunk/README.tx >>>> t >>>> ). >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.mathstore.ac.uk/headocs/6429_mathsteachinginclusive.pdf >>>> ("MathML to text to voice If MathML in a Web page is >> transformed to >>>> text, and this is not a trivial problem (particularly when >> the more >>>> commonly used presentation mark-up is used alone), then >> this text in >>>> turn can be transformed to voice, if it is passed to a >> screen-reader, >>>> in the same way that other text is read in the Web page.") >>>> >>>> >> http://www.biglist.com/lists/xsl-list/archives/200607/msg00675.html >>>> ("XSLT [...] is ideally suited for this [convert MathML to text].") >>>> >>>> http://www.orcca.on.ca/MathML/texmml/mmltotex.html >> ("MathML to TeX Online Translator" [the backend seems to have >> disappeared]). >>>> >>>> (And see also http://www.orcca.on.ca/MathML/, which does not offer >>>> the MathML to TeX translator for download.) >>>> >>>> Finally, although not mathml, there is >> http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ by T.V. Raman. >>>> >>>> (See also >>>> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/raman/aster/aster-toplevel.html >>>> "Notice that AsTeR produces good intonational structure >> when speaking >>>> text that is intermixed with mathematics.") >>>> >>>> >>>> So, please let me know if I've missed anything out. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC >> 000391), an exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity >> registered in Scotland (SC 038302). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 妊 批志忘忪快扶我快技 >> http://www.yaroshevich.ru >>> 岐把抉扮快志我折 圾忘扼我抖抆 >> mailto:vyaroshevich@gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >>Received on Sunday, 13 February 2011 20:06:39 UTC

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