From: Frédéric WANG <fred.wang@free.fr>

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:59:16 +0200

Message-ID: <4CB37AA4.3020001@free.fr>

To: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>

CC: W3C MathML Discussion <www-math@w3.org>

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:59:16 +0200

Message-ID: <4CB37AA4.3020001@free.fr>

To: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>

CC: W3C MathML Discussion <www-math@w3.org>

Le 11/10/2010 22:52, Frédéric WANG a écrit : > Le 11/10/2010 22:27, David Carlisle a écrit : >> On 11/10/2010 20:55, Frédéric WANG wrote: >>> I'm just curious: >>> - will a DTD for XHTML 1.1 + MathML 3.0 + SVG 1.1 provided, as it is >>> the >>> case for MathML 2? >>> - will you also give a RelaxNG schema for combining all these >>> languages, >>> as described in section A.2.6? >> >> sorry, I didn't get time to make the dtd I promised earlier, but will >> get to it soon, but you raise some interesting questions. >> >> Historically, as noted in the (old) page >> >> http://www.w3.org/Math/characters/ >> >> The mathml+xhtml dtd we distributed with mathml2 was just the >> xhtml/svg/mathml driver file with option to include mathml and >> exclude svg, expanded out by an xml parser. >> >> the driver file itself was produced by the (old) HTML Working group >> as part of their XHTML Modularisation work. >> >> I had been planning to simply update the expanded xhtml+mathml dtd >> file dropping in mathml3 in place of mathml2 but otherwise leaving >> things the same, but perhaps it would make sense to include svg >> (which version?) by default as well now? Should the html part attempt >> to model html5 or stick with xhtml1? >> > The W3C validator is currently using XHTML1.1+MathML2.0 and > XHTML1.1+MathML2.0+SVG1.1, while HTML5 is still indicated as an > experimental feature. So I was thinking that a smooth upgrade could be > to provide DTDs for XHTML1.1+MathML3.0 and XHTML1.1+MathML3.0+SVG1.1 > (or maybe only the latter DTD, which includes the former). I guess > DTDs for HTML5 can be generated from the RelaxNG schemas (and it's > probably already the case). >> For Relax NG combinations I should probably liaise with Henri Sivonen. >> His Validator.nu service has RelaxNG schemas for html5 (so >> html+svg+mathml) so it would probably make sense to end up including >> the same flavours of html and svg) > Yes, it is certainly a good idea to see that with Henri Sivonen. FYI, > making a RelaxNG schema for XHTML 1.1 was discussed here but I don't > know what is the status of the project: > http://lists.dsdl.org/dsdl-discuss/2010-03/0000.html > It seems that the W3C provides a RelaxNG Schema for SVG1.2: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.2/rng/ >> >> Incidentally, for a browser, the main dtd to include would be >> >> http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007/htmlmathml-f.ent >> >> so that it uses the right entity definitions >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Frédéric Wang. > Website <http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/> - Weblog > <http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/> -- Frédéric Wang. Website <http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/> - Weblog <http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/>Received on Monday, 11 October 2010 20:59:36 UTC

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