From: <juan@canonicalscience.com>

Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT)

Message-ID: <44290.217.124.69.238.1207658615.squirrel@webmail.canonicalscience.com>

To: <public-html@w3.org>, <www-math@w3.org>

Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT)

Message-ID: <44290.217.124.69.238.1207658615.squirrel@webmail.canonicalscience.com>

To: <public-html@w3.org>, <www-math@w3.org>

Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote: > I'm investigating possible options for addressing the problem of > "Putting an equation in a Web page". This problem was discussed at some extension in the WhatWG mailing list some time ago, when i opened one specific thread on this. I remember two W3 people at that discussion were not specially interested on the MathML-into-HTML5 thing. You received many suggestions from several people to not include MathML into HTML5. Several alternative proposals were discussed then. Then we did not reach consensus. Your reply to us was something like HTML5 would not include *new* mathematical languages/syntaxes had not been experimentally tested before. Then you 'closed' the thread recommending us to follow a microformat way. I am seeing with interest that again the whole issue of math for the web has raised again a 'hot' debate because of doubts about the MathML format. Ian, it seems you are really proposing a non-MathML syntax like <math> 3 + n = 6 </math> I am now writing from memory -correct me if wrong- but is not the same proposal that you did on the WhatWG list years ago and was rejected? I do not know what has changed with HTML5 group since because i am not subscribed and i am not following the whole stuff. But i have followed this discussion and wiki links to WhatWG http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Equations_in_HTML Since the group is now doing some research on how people is putting equations on the web (both MathML and non-MathML), you may find useful next links to using a 'microformat' way to put mathematical formulae on HTML4: http://canonicalscience.blogspot.com/2008/03/ change-of-style-and-technology.html http://www.canonicalscience.org/en/miscellaneouszone/canonml06.html The approach is still in a 'beta' stage and CSS rendering of math is limited by the current support on browsers. For instance, stretchy brackets are simulated rather than being really stretched: http://www.canonicalscience.org/en/researchzone/canonical.html http://www.canonicalscience.org/en/researchzone/nanothermodynamics.html http://www.canonicalscience.org/en/researchzone/time.html The model will be improved when better browser support was available. In fact, a CSS expertise has just communicated me today that > good news is that Mozilla and Safari now have better support for > inline-blocks, so CSS formatted fractions can work in cross browser way.. Therefore, when site was updated four main browsers will be able to render the math [#] on the site. [#] Safari users can still navigate the site at present. Juan R. González-Álvarez Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)Received on Wednesday, 9 April 2008 06:22:52 UTC

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