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Re: Wish for MathML 3: Discourage named entities

From: Chris Chiasson <chris@chiasson.name>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 05:22:38 -0500
Message-ID: <acbec1a40709170322lf6bba70h69f84ea2712ed25d@mail.gmail.com>
To: "David Carlisle" <davidc@nag.co.uk>
Cc: max@berger.name, www-math@w3.org

What about using the actual character for the integral? I would think
that the people reading the specs would have these characters (?) If
all else fails, an image of the glyph with the appropriate alt text in
the image's alt attribute will allow people (using firefox and ie) to
copy/paste the alt text.

On 9/17/07, David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is noted  in the MathML 2 spec at 6.2.1.
>
> Also the DTD appendix says this explicitly, in its second paragraph:
>
>     Note also that if no DTD is specified with a DOCTYPE declaration, that
>     entity references (for example to refer to MathML characters by name)
>     may not be used.
>
>
> > I would therefore like it to be more clear in the spec that the named
> > entities are only valid in standalone MathML document with a dtd.
>
> Yes. We've come to the conclusion (I think) that saying it (or saying it
> again in flashing red bold text:-) won't really help. One of the
> problems was that _all_ the examples used named entities and people not
> unreasonably are more likely to copy examples than to read the text...
> So we're currently experimenting with different formats for the
> examples. The current internal draft has
> <mo> &#x222B;<!--INTEGRAL--> </mo>
> in examples where we previously had
> <mo> &int ;</mo>
>
> There's also work planned to address this issue in the test suite.
>
> David
>
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