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Re: Intractible problems serving web pages with MathML?

From: <juanrgonzaleza@canonicalscience.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <3597.217.124.88.228.1146155611.squirrel@webmail.canonicalscience.com>
To: <www-math@w3.org>


The problem (and some solutions via XSLT) with MSIE and XML is discussed
in the second w3c MathML tutorial available online here
(http://www.w3.org/Math/Documents/mathml-tutorial.pdf). See pags 31,32,...

You will find rendering problems in Mozilla. In fact you can try that
Firefox does not pass official MathML test suite.

David wrote a XSLT for web pages with MathML can be simulated via tables
and seen (with limitations of course) in IE (without MathPlayer), Safari,
Konqueror, ...

He could offer you more information here.

It will be difficult that Web pages will be listed by all the main search
engines.

I obtain same error that you when listed in google. I am serving xml
pages. And yes some engines are not accepting the keywords correctly.

I have tried to encourage people to use Firefox instead of MSIE on my home
page. From an initial 70% (2005) i detect now a 40% or less of users with
MSIE. Apparently some folks wannot change their browsers and others
comunicated to me they cannot (people using library or dept. computers,
etc.)

About google i mailed the Schoolar team

>
> Your crawlers visit us regularly. However, whereas the HTML preliminary
> intro webpage (www.canonicalscience.com/) is correctly interpreted. The
> proof page (www.canonicalscience.com/en/identityzone/description.xml) is
> not.
>
> In fact, in a generic search by "Center for Canonical Science" in
> google.es both pages are listed first and second. The second is
> presented as unknown type of archive and its title and description are
> not
> recognized in the present XML format. For instance, as title of the page
> your crawlers take the xml declaration.
>

Probably this can be corrected changing extension of pages and maybe
adding a link to some of useful David XSLTs, but i do not followed that
way.

After we discuss posibilities future Canonical Science Report was searched
and cached by Scholar academic engine and we discuss about search engine
technologies (why google bot is piooner, etc), MathML, CML, and other
approaches. We also discuss about difficulties and weakness of the MathML
model and posibilities for a scientific-mathematician journal using MathML
and others XML technologies.

Last reply I received was

"Posting the files as PDFs should be sufficient for indexing in Google and
Google Scholar. Please let us know when your site is ready."

Do i need add more?


Juan R.

Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)
Received on Thursday, 27 April 2006 16:33:45 GMT

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