From: Goessner / MecXpert <goessner@mecxpert.de>

Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:53:47 +0200

Message-ID: <000f01c21b86$920b7ff0$fe78a8c0@alpha>

To: <www-math@w3.org>, <www-svg@w3.org>

Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:53:47 +0200

Message-ID: <000f01c21b86$920b7ff0$fe78a8c0@alpha>

To: <www-math@w3.org>, <www-svg@w3.org>

Here is an example using IE6, SvgViewer 3.0 and Mathplayer 1.0 beta 4. Please note, that i don't use the universal MathML stylesheet (UMSS) here, since nothing comparable exists for Svg. So the resulting document XHTML/Presentation MathML/SVG is unfortunately not cross-browser enabled. <?xml version="1.0"?> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:g="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:m="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> <head> <title>SVG/MathML</title> <object id="MathPlayer" classid="clsid:32f66a20-7614-11d4-bd11-00104bd3f987"></object> <object id="AdobeSVG" classid="clsid:78156a80-c6a1-4bbf-8e6a-3cd390eeb4e2"></object> <?import namespace="g" implementation="#AdobeSVG"?> <?import namespace="m" implementation="#MathPlayer"?> </head> <body> <h2>SVG and MathML</h2> <p>In SVG a homogenous transformation matrix looks like this.<p> <p> <m:math> <m:mrow> <m:mi>T</m:mi><m:mo>=</m:mo> <m:mo>(</m:mo> <m:mtable> <m:mtr> <m:mtd> <m:mi>a</m:mi> </m:mtd> <m:mtd> <m:mi>c</m:mi> </m:mtd> <m:mtd> <m:mi>e</m:mi> </m:mtd> </m:mtr> <m:mtr> <m:mtd> <m:mi>b</m:mi> </m:mtd> <m:mtd> <m:mi>d</m:mi> </m:mtd> <m:mtd> <m:mi>f</m:mi> </m:mtd> </m:mtr> <m:mtr> <m:mtd> <m:mn>0</m:mn> </m:mtd> <m:mtd> <m:mn>0</m:mn> </m:mtd> <m:mtd> <m:mn>1</m:mn> </m:mtd> </m:mtr> </m:mtable> </m:mrow> <m:mo>)</m:mo> </m:mrow> </m:math> </p> <p> <p> Here is how we use it. </p> <p> <g:svg width="200" height="150"> <g:text transform="matrix(0.5,0.866,-0.866,0.5,10,40)" stroke="darkslateblue" fill="lightblue" font-size="60" font-family="Comic Sans MS">SVG</g:text> </g:svg> </p> </html> -- stefan goessner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Preda" <gabriel_p@rol.ro> To: <www-math@w3.org>; <www-svg@w3.org> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:14 AM Subject: Is it so hard to generate compliant software ? > > I'm currently working on a site about and with Math... having in my mind > that I must make it 2005 compatible :))... I considered a good approach > MathML for mathematical expressions and SVG for drawings related to > mathematics... I want to be compliant with W3C REC as much as I can... > BUT... I'm facing some problems... > The general question is: > Is it so hard to generate compliant software ? > Step by step: > _SVG_: SVG can't be directly put in HTML... let's say that time will > deal with this... but I wonder... why ADOBE made not one... not two... but 3 > available MIME-types for SVG files...??? (image/svg, image/svg-xml, > image/svg+xml)... when SVG-REC only talks about the last one... Another > thing is that <OBJECT> sometime fails... it should be as simple as > <OBJECT type="image/svg+xml" width=".." height=".." > data="some_file.svg"></OBJECT>... but that is not working... thus we are > forced to use the <EMBED> tag witch is not in any REC !!! > > _MathML_: ... here are tons to discuss... same thing... MIME-type... > techexplorer recognizes "text/mathml" which has been deprecated by MathML2.0 > in favor of "application/mathml+xml" (which, IMHO, is more appropriate)... > is it so hard to change some code lines to switch to another MIME-type ? But > that's not all with techexplorer... following the instructions on the site > (Putting mathematics on the Web with MathML)... I get nothing... > > I believe that Adobe as well as IBM are in W3C... so I would not expect > compliant software from other companies since companies in W3C generate > NotThatCompliant software... > > Now to my MathML problem !! > > <?xml version="1.0"?> > <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="mathml.xsl"?> > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> > [......HTML 4.01 strict DTD....] > <math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"> > <maction actiontype="tooltip"> > <mtable frame="solid"> > <mtr> <mtd> <mi>p</mi> </mtd> > <mtd><apply><not/><ci>p</ci></apply></mtd></mtr> > <mtr> <mtd><mn>1</mn></mtd> > <mtd><mn>0</mn></mtd></mtr> > <mtr> <mtd><n>0</mn></mtd> > <mtd><mn>1</mn></td></mtr></mtable> > <mtext linebreak="badbreak">Table valorilor de adevar pentru > negatie.</mtext></maction> > </math> > [......HTML 4.01 strict DTD....] > [......MathML....] > [......HTML 4.01 strict DTD....] > [......MathML....] > ... and so on... > Where is the flaw ? instead of Math expression I get "p p 1 0 0 1" ??? > Gabriel Preda - gabriel_p@rol.ro >Received on Monday, 24 June 2002 09:45:48 GMT

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