- From: Martin J Duerst <mduerst@ifi.unizh.ch>
- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:27:13 +0100 (MET)
- To: keld@dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen)
- Cc: mtbryan@sgml.u-net.com, rosenne@NetVision.net.il, J.Larmouth@iti.salford.ac.uk, www-international@w3.org
Keld Simonsen wrote: >Well, does the ordering have influence on WWW ? >I think it may do so, for example when a server sends over a >sorted list of files in a directory. It may also influence indexes >which could be of some importance in the chaotic world of the web. > >So I think the web should support culturally dependent ordering. In theory, this is already possible. The client would send an "Accept-Language" line in the GET header in the HTTP protocol, and the server would prepare the information accordingly. But I guess this will take some time to be implemented on many servers. >> However, for many if not most purposes, it is customary to sort >> ideographs phonetically. Because, as Martin has mentionned, pronounciation >> of an ideograph depends on language and context, and the different >> languages have different phonetic sorting orders, it's impossible >> to say that ideograph A comes before ideograph B in all cases. >> What you need e.g. for correct sorting in an index, is to >> annotate the words and expressions you want to sort with phonetic >> information, and to use this phonetic information for sorting. > >Yes, that is also my understanding. > >But given that you do not have pronounciation data available for >a CJK string, I would say that the specifications of ISO CD 14651 >is adequate for ordering them. Well, it is not too difficult to include pronounciation annotations. And in some cases they also appear graphically. See draft-duerst-ruby-00.txt for a proposed extension of HTML for this purpose. Regards, Martin.
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