[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2019-11-14

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            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

14 Nov 2019

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019Nov/0015.html

Attendees

    Present
           Bert, Fuqiao, addison, Atsushi, r12a, JcK

    Regrets

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
          2. [5]Action Items
          3. [6]Info Share
          4. [7]RADAR and Active Work Review
          5. [8]horizontal review labels again
          6. [9]clearing cruft from our tracker
          7. [10]East Asian Width
          8. [11]clearing cruft from our tracker
          9. [12]AOB?
      * [13]Summary of Action Items
      * [14]Summary of Resolutions
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    <scribe> Agenda:

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    <scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-832?

    <trackbot> action-832 -- Addison Phillips to Check with Unicode
    ESC and UTC on CSS 337: can emoji be EA Width of Ambiguous --
    due 2019-09-26 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/832

      [16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/832

    action-840?

    <trackbot> action-840 -- Atsushi Shimono to Find out about
    potential schedule clash with ttwg and report back if we need
    to consider a time change -- due 2019-10-31 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/840

      [17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/840

    close action-840

    <trackbot> Closed action-840.

    action-846?

    <trackbot> action-846 -- Addison Phillips to File 2 issues
    against whatwg infra about case-sensitive and update css
    comment -- due 2019-11-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/846

      [18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/846

    close action-846

    <trackbot> Closed action-846.

Info Share

RADAR and Active Work Review

    [19]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

    bert: still reviewing intersection observer

horizontal review labels again

    richard: talked to a number of people, got a lukewarm response
    ... want to call first part of label "privacy" vs. "ping" for
    one group. nothing to do with us
    ... still an issue with i18n-comment label
    ... not sure i18n-tracking a big issue

    <r12a>

    richard: suggested in my email..

    <r12a> *i18n-tracker*

    <r12a> (was formerly i18n-tracking)

    <r12a> The i18n WG may add this label to indicate that they are
    following a discussion. Other WGs can also add the label to any
    issue to automatically bring the discussion to the attention of
    the i18n WG. Issues with this label don't need to be resolved
    to the satisfaction of the i18n WG before a transition.

    <r12a> *i18n-needs-response*

    <r12a> (was formerly i18n-comment)

    <r12a> The i18n WG has raised, or is following this issue, and
    expects it to be resolved to their satisfaction before a
    transition. This label is added/applied only by the i18n WG,
    and should only be removed by them. It may replace an
    i18n-tracker label.

    <r12a> *i18n-satisfied*

    <r12a> (new)

    <r12a> Applied by the i18n WG only. Replaces
    i18n-needs-response when the i18n WG is satisfied with the
    resolution.

    <r12a> ]]

    <r12a> i18n-needs-response -> i18n-needs-resolution

    richard: want to say instead of i18n-needs-response
    ... choosing names for two labels we have
    ... and then introducing a new label 'i18n-satisified'
    ... so when we're satisfied we would change the label from
    i18n-needs-response to i18n-satisfied
    ... makes clear to others
    ... such as in CR transition
    ... if any tags needs-response not happy

    sounds good to me

    <JcK> Seems as reasonable as we are going to get, so no
    objection.

clearing cruft from our tracker

East Asian Width

    (addison introduces)

    richard: wrote something on that thread, less EAW than line
    reconstitution
    ... think we're overthinking
    ... I think most of the time, if you want SE Asian script
    languages to combine properly
    ... you don't need to do anything because spaces in those
    language
    ... people don't complain because they break on spaces
    ... emoji not really an issue, appear mostly in text with words
    with spaces

    addison: why do you assert that?

    richard: if emoji in source text, then most of the time not
    writing massive strings
    ... there'll be a space nearby
    ... other thing is that don't expect long strings of emoji in
    source text
    ... in source ZWJ sequences look short
    ... not counting chars
    ... only place it's a problem with like chinese and japanese
    ... there need to decide where to break the text

clearing cruft from our tracker

    <r12a>
    [20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019N
    ov/0019.html

      [20] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019Nov/0019.html

    <r12a>
    [21]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/#vehicle-inform
    ation-access

      [21] 
https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/#vehicle-information-access

    RESOLUTION: close vehiclde-information-access issues and mark
    with 'recycle'

    close the first dpub one since not really i18n

    RESOLUTION: close three dpub issues as stale

    RESOLUTION: close all linked-data-patch-format issues

    RESOLUTION: close appmanifest issue

    RESOLUTION: close tracking-compliance issue as stale

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

     1. [22]close vehiclde-information-access issues and mark with
        'recycle'
     2. [23]close three dpub issues as stale
     3. [24]close all linked-data-patch-format issues
     4. [25]close appmanifest issue
     5. [26]close tracking-compliance issue as stale

    [End of minutes]

Received on Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:18:19 UTC