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Re: [css-counter-styles] The duplication of `bengali` and `eastern-nagari` may not be necessary

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:12:00 +0100
Message-ID: <51F6B070.2000709@w3.org>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
CC: 梁海 <lianghai@gmail.com>, WWW International <www-international@w3.org>
There's a similar duplication, I noticed today, with Cambodian and Khmer.

Tab, i'm cc'ing you in case you know any of the background here.

RI


On 29/07/2013 18:57, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> [-www-style, +www-international]
>
> Forwarding your message on to the Internationalization WG, who is
> maintaining the document with those styles.
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM, 梁海 <lianghai@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tab Atkins and all,
>>
>> Of course, about the LCWD:
>>
>> I noticed that, besides a reasonable counter style for Bengali, `bengali`,
>> there's an style identical to `bengali` but is named `eastern-nagari` and
>> cataloged under "6. Devanagari". See below:
>>
>> 4. Bengali
>> @counter-style bengali {
>> system: numeric;
>> symbols: '\9E6' '\9E7' '\9E8' '\9E9' '\9EA' '\9EB' '\9EC' '\9ED' '\9EE'
>> '\9EF';
>> /* symbols: '০' '১' '২' '৩' '৪' '৫' '৬' '৭' '৮' '৯'; */
>> }
>>
>> 6. Devanagari
>> …
>> @counter-style eastern-nagari {
>> system: numeric;
>> symbols: '\9E6' '\9E7' '\9E8' '\9E9' '\9EA' '\9EB' '\9EC' '\9ED' '\9EE'
>> '\9EF';
>> /* symbols: '০' '১' '২' '৩' '৪' '৫' '৬' '৭' '৮' '৯'; */
>> }
>> …
>>
>> These two style are identical, which obviously would confuse developers. I
>> was wondering why they are listed twice.
>>
>> And to clarify:
>> 1. Eastern Nagari is not a variant or subset of Devanagari. They may be
>> regarded as siblings though.
>> 2. Eastern Nagari is more a historical concept (of the evolution of
>> Indic/Brahmic scripts), from which Bengali script developed. Eastern Nagari
>> is not a modern script.
>> 3. The term Eastern Nagari may also be used as an umbrella term for its
>> modern variants, which mainly consists of Bengali and Assamese script.
>> Bengali and Assamese language actually employ roughly the same alphabet but
>> differs in usage of some letters, which results in a unified Unicode code
>> block.
>> 4. It indeed may be more politically correct to say "Eastern Nagari" when
>> you refer to the script of Bengali or Assamese.
>>
>> Please let me know if there's already discussions about this issue. I failed
>> to find any in the archives.
>>
>> --
>> LIANG Hai(梁海)
>>
>
>


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