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Re: MLWLT-issue-88 (Re: Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-211: Quote element in HTML)

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:00:28 +0000
Message-ID: <514B208C.6070302@w3.org>
To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
CC: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org, www International <www-international@w3.org>
All I'm proposing is to change to

  <p>In Arabic, the title <q dir=rtl lang=ar>نشاط التدويل، W3C</q>
     means "Internationalization Activity, W3C".</p>

I don't think that this invalidates the example.

RI


On 21/03/2013 14:58, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Am 21.03.13 15:53, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>> Hmm. Ok. I think you could probably argue use of q for the markup with
>> the dir attribute in it, but I think that the text
>> "Internationalization Activity, W3C" should probably just have quotes
>> around it, since it's not quoting anything.
>
> The purpose of the example is to demonstrate the usage of "dir" in
> HTML5. What would be a good text for that? e.g. how could we replace
>
> <p>In Arabic, the title <q dir=rtl lang=ar>نشاط التدويل، W3C</q>
>        means <q>Internationalization Activity, W3C</q>.</p>
>
> Best,
>
> Felix
>
>>
>> (See the HTML5 spec "The q element must not be used in place of
>> quotation marks that do not represent quotes; for example, it is
>> inappropriate to use the q element for marking up sarcastic statements.")
>>
>> RI
>>
>>
>> On 21/03/2013 09:02, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>>> Hi Richard, Björn, all,
>>>
>>> the example 48 now says "q", see
>>> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-dir-html5-local-1
>>>
>>>
>>> I assume that you are OK with this, let us know otherwise.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> Am 14.02.13 15:43, schrieb Felix Sasaki:
>>>> Hi Richard, all,
>>>>
>>>> coming back to this: do you want us to change this to "q" or to
>>>> "cite"? Both fine, just trying to move the issue forward.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> Am 16.01.13 20:51, schrieb Richard Ishida:
>>>>> Apologies. I'm referring to Example 48.
>>>>>
>>>>> RI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/01/2013 19:46, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
>>>>>> * Richard Ishida wrote:
>>>>>>> Example 48: The Directionality data category expressed locally in
>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-its20-20121206/#directionality-implementation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no quote element in HTML5. I think you mean cite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More likely 'q' or 'blockquote'. It would help if you would actually
>>>>>> quote the text you are commenting on, the section number is nice, but
>>>>>> people still have to search and guess what you might be referring to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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