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Re: I18N-ISSUE-207: Term data category and dfn element [.prep-ITS-20]

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:33:08 +0000
Message-ID: <50F568A4.9080709@w3.org>
To: Yves Savourel <yves@opentag.com>, 'Felix Sasaki' <fsasaki@w3.org>, jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>
CC: www-international@w3.org
Process point: This is currently being discussed on the 
www-international list about an issue that has been raised in a .prep 
product - ie. not yet formally sent to the MLT-LT WG.

That's ok, but at some point the issue needs to be discussed in the 
MLW-LT mailing list.  Don't know whether you want to continue here, or 
save your thoughts for later, when I guess you'll need to repeat them.

I don't mind either way, just thought i'd mention it.

RI



On 15/01/2013 14:17, Yves Savourel wrote:
>>> We should be consistent: put either all mappings in
>>> the specifications or in the BP document.
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>> Understand. So then rather do this normatively in the spec,
>> and summarizing maybe in a section "existing HTML markup and ITS"?
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> Whether we do it in the specification or the BP, it would likely to be a normative change. That is, if we do in in a BP, text like "Applying the Id Value data category to xml:id (in XML) or id (in HTML) attributes in global rules is not necessary, since these attributes are the recommended way to specify an identifier." would need to be changed.
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> What probably matter most in the long term is compliance: Do we want an ITS processor that supports Terminology for HTML to 'understand' <dfn> by default, or hope it does follow the BP?
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> As a user I'd rather have processors I can count on to do the proper mapping by default.
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> but, in the other hand, defining all rules for HTML5 is likely to be a bit challenging:
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> - What about data categories like Elements Within Text? After all <b>, <u>, etc. should be mapped to withinText='yes'.
> - Do we also define the translatable attributes?
> - How do we address the thorny case of Preserve Space for <pre>?
> - Is the content with <del> translatable or not?
> - etc.
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> This could get ugly and time consuming, and may be easier to handle in a BP for which time constraint is more flexible.
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> So I don't know...
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> cheers,
> -yves
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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Activity Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

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