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Re: Draft for review: Personal names around the world

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:26:04 +0100
Message-ID: <4E43CA5C.8060308@w3.org>
To: Gunnar Bittersmann <gunnar@bittersmann.de>
CC: www-international@w3.org
On 04/08/2011 13:03, Gunnar Bittersmann wrote:
> I’m afraid I can’t keep my promise to shut up.
>
> Section To split or not to split? requires to “try to avoid using the
> labels ‘first name’ and ‘last name’ in non-localized forms”. The graphic
> (‘First M Last’) on the right side under the heading Implications for
> field design
> [http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-personal-names#fielddesign] breaks
> that very rule.
>
> Don’t give a bad example, at least not uncommented. Put a big red X over
> this sample form, or drop the graphic.

Hm. Ok.

>
>
> The question reads “the design of forms, ontologies, etc.” while it is
> “the design of forms and databases” for the intended audience and
> “create web forms, databases, or ontologies” under Background.
>
> IMHO databases are a more common use case, so if you’re gonna keep the
> question short, you might use “databases” instead of “ontologies” in the
> question (and in the meta description).

I used all three terms consistently, and added the following to the end 
of the background section:
"The examples and advice shown relate mostly to Web forms and databases. 
Many of the concepts are, however, also worth considering for ontology 
design, though we won't call out specific examples here."

>
>
> To be consistent with the identifiers in the name schemes, you might
> rename 'given-patronymic-family' to 'givenName-patronymic-familyName'.

Done.

>
>
> Shift the space in 'her<span lang="es" xml:lang="es"> apellidos</span>'
> to 'her <span lang="es" xml:lang="es">apellidos</span>'.

Done.

>
> BTW, wouldn’t it be appropriate to have ‘apellidos’ in italics not just
> on the first occurrence, but on every? I.e. '<i class="foreign"
> lang="es" xml:lang="es">apellidos</i>' instead of '<span lang="es"
> xml:lang="es">apellidos</span>'?

Yes.  I'm not clear on how that should work myself.  It seems natural to 
me to use only for the first introduction.

RI

>
> Gunnar
>
>

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