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Re: For review: An Introduction to Multilingual Web Addresses

From: Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:40:09 +0000
Message-ID: <460321E9.9060303@emi.ac.ma>
To: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
Cc: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, Michael.Monaghan@sun.com, WWW International <www-international@w3.org>
Mark Davis wrote:
> The other thing to test is whether the browser supports the %xx%xx 
> version of Unicode characters.
It seems they do not support (but Opera 9, once again).
That's what I have noticed sometimes ago, when authoring HTML with 
Arabic IDNs.  My link looks fine in the status bar, but don't go to the 
expected location on click. The href attribute is in %xx%xx version, and 
the IRI displays like that in the address bar.

NVU for example, puts the %xx%xx in the href attribute, even it you type 
native (see 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2007JanMar/0089.html, 
the third case).

It is the case with your examples bellow. The link texts are different, 
but the link location (href ) is the same in all cases 
(http://%c3%b6bb.at/).

Najib

>
> Examples:
>
>   	(a) Characters 	(b) Hex bytes 	(c) Punycode 	Variation
> 1 	http://öbb.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 	http://%C3%B6bb.at 
> <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 	http://xn--bb-eka.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 
> canonical
> 2 	http://ÖBB.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 	http://%C3%96bb.at 
> <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 	http://xn--bb-eka.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 
> case variation
> 3 	http://öbb.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 	http://%C3%B6%EF%BD%82b.at 
> <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 	http://xn--bb-eka.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> 
> width variation (NFKC)
>
>
> BTW, http://öbb.at <http://%c3%b6bb.at/> is a nice real IDN.
>
> Mark
>
> On 3/22/07, *Richard Ishida* <ishida@w3.org <mailto:ishida@w3.org>> 
> wrote:
>
>
>     I put together an initial draft of a set of tests at
>     http://www.w3.org/International/tests/test-idn-display-1
>
>     It was revealing wrt Firefox's approach.  What we put in the
>     article isn't quite right. I'll try to change it tomorrow.
>
>     RI
>
>     ============
>     Richard Ishida
>     Internationalization Lead
>     W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>
>     http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>     http://www.w3.org/International/
>     http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>     http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>
>
>
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Richard Ishida [mailto:ishida@w3.org <mailto:ishida@w3.org>]
>     > Sent: 22 March 2007 16:38
>     > To: 'Richard Ishida'; Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM
>     <mailto:Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM>
>     > Cc: 'WWW International'
>     > Subject: RE: For review: An Introduction to Multilingual Web
>     Addresses
>     >
>     > On the other hand, it occurs to me that we *can* make tests
>     > out of these by looking at the status bar as we mouse over
>     > the IRI.  So I think I'll create a test page now and remove
>     > the table from the actual article, converting it into a test
>     > results page.
>     >
>     > RI
>     >
>     > ============
>     > Richard Ishida
>     > Internationalization Lead
>     > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>     >
>     > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ <http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/>
>     > http://www.w3.org/International/
>     > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>     > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > From: www-international-request@w3.org
>     <mailto:www-international-request@w3.org>
>     > > [mailto: www-international-request@w3.org
>     <mailto:www-international-request@w3.org>] On Behalf Of
>     > Richard Ishida
>     > > Sent: 22 March 2007 16:17
>     > > To: Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM <mailto:Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM>
>     > > Cc: 'WWW International'
>     > > Subject: RE: For review: An Introduction to Multilingual
>     > Web Addresses
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Hi Michael,
>     > >
>     > > Since these were not really tests, I substantially changed the
>     > > introductory text just before the table.
>     > >
>     > > (It would be nice if we could register a set of IDNs like this
>     and
>     > > turn this into a real set of test results.)
>     > >
>     > > RI
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > ============
>     > > Richard Ishida
>     > > Internationalization Lead
>     > > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>     > >
>     > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>     > > http://www.w3.org/International/
>     > > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>     > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > > From: Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM
>     <mailto:Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM> [mailto:Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM
>     <mailto:Michael.Monaghan@Sun.COM>]
>     > > > Sent: 05 March 2007 22:12
>     > > > To: Richard Ishida
>     > > > Cc: 'WWW International'
>     > > > Subject: Re: For review: An Introduction to Multilingual
>     > > Web Addresses
>     > > >
>     > > > Hi Richard,
>     > > >
>     > > > It's unfortunate that the table of examples forces a horizontal
>     > > > scrollbar. Not sure if that can be easily fixed.
>     > > >
>     > > > Also, above the table it says that "These tests were run in
>     > > February
>     > > > 2007 on Windows XP ...." - that was before the Safari
>     > behavior was
>     > > > added.
>     > > >
>     > > > Thanks,
>     > > >
>     > > > ~mm
>     > > >
>     > > > Richard Ishida wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/#work
>     <http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/#work>
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Comments are being sought on the revised section of this
>     > > > article entitled "Does it work?"
>     > > > > prior to final completion. Please send any comments to
>     > > > www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org>
>     (subscribe).
>     > > > > We expect to publish a final version in one to two weeks.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Thanks.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > ============
>     > > > > Richard Ishida
>     > > > > Internationalization Lead
>     > > > > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>     > > > >
>     > > > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>     > > > > http://www.w3.org/International/
>     > > > > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>     > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > >
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