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RE: For review: Tagging text with no language

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:51:35 +0100
To: "'Martin Duerst'" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, "'Najib Tounsi'" <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
Cc: <www-international@w3.org>, "'LTRU Working Group'" <ltru@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <010801c79bd9$0f206be0$6401a8c0@rishida>

Najib and Martin,

Thanks for your comments.  I had another go at the document.
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-no-language

RI


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Duerst [mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp] 
> Sent: 19 May 2007 02:30
> To: Najib Tounsi; Richard Ishida
> Cc: www-international@w3.org; 'LTRU Working Group'
> Subject: Re: For review: Tagging text with no language
> 
> Hello Richard, Najib,
> 
> At 07:25 07/05/19, Najib Tounsi wrote:
> >
> >Hi Richard,
> >
> >My feedback is perhaps subjective. My feeling is that, in 
> some places, the text is not sufficently clear for those who 
> don't speak English fluently.
> >
> >Anyway, here are some remarks (about 
> >http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-no-language#unde
termined)
> >
> >- You write
> >"For example, xml:lang="" might be used if text is included 
> into a document from a database that doesn't provide language 
> information..."
> >It is the text or the document which is from a database? The 
> text of course.
> >Should I understand this:
> >For example, xml:lang="" might be used if text is to be 
> included into a document and (the text) comes from a database 
> that doesn't provide language information ...?
> 
> Very good point.
> 
> >-You write
> >"The effect would be to cancel any language information 
> declared higher up the hierarchy of elements in the document."
> >What do "cancel any language" means?
> > - remove the language information declared higher up the hierarchy? 
> >Wrong
> > - override this declaration by the new one "und"? Right
> >
> >Finally the whole story (about the use of "und") is, if you 
> can "leave out the markup", go ahead. Mark up only if "you 
> have a particular need to indicate that the language is 
> undefined". Right?
> 
> I was also a bit surprised by this. It's easy to read this as 
> "language tagging, so who cares?". It looks like it's quite 
> in contrast to what we say on language tags otherwise.
> 
> Regards,    Martin.
> 
> 
> 
> #-#-#  Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University
> #-#-#  http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp       
> mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp     
> 
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