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Re: Hindi Alphabetic Bulleting in CSS3 (Indian Languages)

From: Jose <jose_stephen@cdactvm.in>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:27:32 +0530
Message-ID: <013801c67a59$19ab1bc0$ca1110ac@Josemrc>
To: "Goutam Kumar Saha" <goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in>
Cc: <www-international@w3.org>

   Sir,

   Support for numeric bulleting for Malayalam,Tamil and Kannada is
   already there in CSS3 draft(http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-lists/).
   Only alphabetic support is not  there presently.

   Jose
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Goutam Kumar Saha" <goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in>
To: "Jose" <jose_stephen@cdactvm.in>
Cc: <www-international@w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Hindi Alphabetic Bulleting in CSS3 (Indian Languages)


>
> Dear Jose and All,
> Thanks for the PDFs.
> Don't we use numeric bullets in Malayalam, Tamil and Kannada apart from 
> the
> alphabetic bullets?
> Regards,
> Goutam
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jose" <jose_stephen@cdactvm.in>
> To: "Goutam Kumar Saha" <goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in>; "Martin Duerst"
> <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
> Cc: <www-international@w3.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Hindi Alphabetic Bulleting in CSS3 (Indian Languages)
>
>
>>
>> Dear all we converted the tamil & malayalam bulleting list as  PDF
> documents
>> to solve the font issues.
>> You can download/view  from
>> http://www.malayalamresourcecentre.org/w3c/malbulletinglist.pdf
> (Malayalam)
>> http://www.malayalamresourcecentre.org/w3c/tamilbulletinglist.pdf 
>> (Tamil)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jose
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Martin Duerst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
>> To: "Jose" <jose_stephen@cdactvm.in>; "Goutam Kumar Saha"
>> <goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in>
>> Cc: <www-international@w3.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: Hindi Alphabetic Bulleting in CSS3 (Indian Languages)
>>
>>
>> > Hello Jose,
>> >
>> > At 17:15 06/05/17, Jose wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Dear All
>> > >In Tamil consonants & vowels are used for Bulleting since tamil have
> only
>> > a few consonants.But in malayalam only consonants are used. You can
> refer
>> > malayalam bulleting list from the site
>> > http://www.malayalamresourcecentre.org/w3c/malayalambulletinglist.htm
> and
>> > tamil from the site
>> > http://www.malayalamresourcecentre.org/w3c/tamilbulletinglist.htm..
>> >
>> > This is great information! However, can you please make sure
>> > you send these files labeled as UTF-8 (because they are encoded
>> > in UTF-8, which is nice). Currently, the server says they are
>> > iso-8859-1, which is of course wrong.
>> >
>> > Also, I had problems looking at the Tamil page both in Opera 9.5
>> > (shows only one or two random characters) and in Firefox
>> > (shows source). In IE, this showed up reasonably well.
>> > I haven't found the reason for why the Malayalam page displays
>> > but the Tamil page doesn't. But if you find anyhthing,
>> > please fix it.
>> >
>> > Thanks,    Martin.
>> >
>> > >Thanks & Regards,
>> > >Jose Stephen
>> > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Goutam Kumar Saha"
>> > <goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in>
>> > >To: "Martin Duerst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
>> > >Cc: <www-international@w3.org>
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:18 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: Hindi Alphabetic Bulleting in CSS3 (Indian Languages)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear Martin,
>> > >> This is for your kind information that we don't use vowel list for
>> > >> Bulleting
>> > >> in Bengali, Oriya and Assamese etc.
>> > >> Normally, to my best knowledge,  we use either Numeric bulleting
>> > >> (starting
>> > >> from 1-one ) or Consonant bulleting only. Vowels are not used for
>> > >> buletting.
>> > >> This might be true for other Indian Languages also (e.g. Gujrati,
>> > >> Malayalam
>> > >> and Hindi etc.)
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks and Regards,
>> > >> Goutam Kumar Saha
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Duerst"
>> > >> <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
>> > >> To: "Karunesh Arora" <karunesharora@cdacnoida.in>; "Richard Ishida"
>> > >> <ishida@w3.org>
>> > >> Cc: <www-international@w3.org>; "Felix Sasaki" <fsasaki@w3.org>
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:05 AM
>> > >> Subject: Re: Hindi Alphabetic Bulleting in CSS3
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hello Karunesh,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Great contribution!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Two questions:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> You show Vowel bulleting order and consonant bulleting order
>> > >>> separately.
>> > >>> Does that mean that these are two different ways of labeling list
>> > >>> items?
>> > >>> Or is there some way to combine them in a single labeling style?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In other words, would we need both of:
>> > >>> list-style-type: devanagari-vowel
>> > >>> list-style-type: devanagari-consonant
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Also, you say that this is the order for Indian languages, but does
>> > >>> this apply to all Indian scripts? Are there variations depending
>> > >>> on the language (e.g. for languages that don't use all the letters
>> > >>> in a script)? What happens for scripts that e.g. don't have all
>> > >>> the consonants, or have additional consonants? (e.g. Tamil?)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Sorry to ask so many questions.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,    Martin.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> At 20:10 06/05/16, Karunesh Arora wrote:
>> > >>>  >Dear all,
>> > >>>  >In CSS3 Module :Lists working draft
>> > >> (ref:http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-lists/)
>> > >>>  >we found that the list-style-type for bulleting is done only for
>> > >> numerals in
>> > >>>  >Indian languages i.e no alphabetic bulletins are provided ( 4.4
> List
>> > >>>  >Content: The 'list-style-type' property - Alphabetic).  The
> ordering
>> > >> list
>> > >>>  >for Hindi is given in enclosed file for Vowels and Consonants.
>> > >>>  >Please go through the document and give us your valuable
>> > >>> suggestions.
>> > >>>  >regards
>> > >>>  >Karunesh & Vijay
>> > >>>  >
>> > >>>  >
>> > >>>  >
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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