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Re: Coherence without CSS (was Bidi Markup vs Unicode control characters)

From: Tex Texin <tex@xencraft.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:04:40 -0700
Message-ID: <4302C568.94AC4BBE@xencraft.com>
To: "Elizabeth J. Pyatt" <ejp10@psu.edu>
CC: www-international@w3.org, Tex Texin <tex@XenCraft.com>

Elizabeth,

It needs to be heard. Accessibility is important. I am not recommending
incoherent documents, I am just pointing out the nature of some of the css
features.

tex

"Elizabeth J. Pyatt" wrote:
> 
> Tex Texin wrote:
> >It is not clear to me that we need to insist on the document being
> >coherent without css.
> >
> >...
> >Similarly, without positioning information that is in css styles, some
> documents become unsolved jigsaw puzzles.
> 
> This is probably not what anyone wants to hear, but  if you live in
> the U.S. and have to comply with federal Section 508 accessibility
> standards, then it is REQUIRED that docments linearize correctly
> without CSS (i.e. be coherent).
> 
> Paragraph D
> "Documents shall be organized so they are readable without requiring
> an associated style sheet."
> http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Content&ID=12#Web
> 
> This is because can use "float:right" and other CSS positioning
> tricks to "reogranize" your content completely differently in the
> layout from how is typed in the the document. Current screen readers
> will get confused and read things in document order and  "out of
> layout" order (in theory, you could fix the screen readers, but that
> would take about 5-10 years to implement).
> 
> Of course, standard U.S. screen readers don't handle Unicode outside
> Western European languages well at all...but that's another thread
> (sigh).
> 
> Elizabeth
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