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RE: IDN - RTL

From: Jony Rosenne <rosennej@qsm.co.il>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:03:55 +0200
To: <www-international@w3.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-international-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:www-international-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Najib Tounsi
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:31 PM
> To: Chris Lilley
> Cc: Matitiahu Allouche; Jony Rosenne; 
> www-international@w3.org; www-international-request@w3.org
> Subject: Re: IDN - RTL
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Lilley wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, February 21, 2005, 12:53:49 PM, Najib wrote:
> >
> >
> >NT> Moreover, domain names are meant to be meaningful and 
> suggestive. 
> >NT> "www.ALEF5.123.il"  intuitively means for me (a professional 
> >NT> deformation?) "www.5FELA.123.il". Thats is labels in IDN 
> should remain
> >NT> displayed as usual in LTR.  (Which is a contradiction 
> coming from a RTL
> >NT> language speaker ;-) ).
> >
> >You mean, you want to force Hebrew and Arabic companies to register
> >their names backwards in the DNS, so that they appear in a readable
> >order when displayed LTR (which would require an overide of 
> the normal
> >directionality for those Unicode characters)?
> >  
> >
> I just expressed an impression let by the digits in the example above.
> 
> Indeed, the consequence is that
> "ABC.DEF.ma" is to  display
> "CBA.FED.ma" (actually displayed "FED.CBA.ma")
> and
> "www.ABC1.2DEF.ma" is to display
> "www.1CBA.FED2.ma  (actually displayed "www.FED1.2CBA" (in stead of 
> "www.FED2.1CBA.ma"))
> 
> Why not? Aren't there already restrictions on bidi IDN?
> 
> >Isn't the whole point that they just use their normal 
> company names, as
> >regular text, and they display the same as normal, like regular text?
> >  
> >
> I don't know what companies exactly want. I think if my cie name was 
> 'ABD DEF', I'd likely be led to register it as "ABC-DEF" (and not 
> "ABD.DEF"). And then  type "http://www.FED-CBA.ma" to see 
> "http://www.ABC-DEF.ma".
> Note that I am already forced to type "http://" (though it's not the 
> same problem).

Of course true internationalization must allow the replacement of http and
its like by localized equivalents for non-Latin scripts.

Today some browsers don't require it, but then you still need ftp and https.

I hope the younger generation will soon be able to type הטטפ:\\שלום.יל or
something similar and be able to use the internet before they learn a
foreign language.

Jony

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> Najib
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