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Re[2]: greek char in UTF-8

From: <jeff.hickey@edwardjones.com>
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 07:56:03 -0500
Cc: www-international@w3.org
Message-id: <H0000ffa0421aa66@MHS>
Thanks Chris.  In part, I misread and thought Guy was trying to force a VERDANA font 
(quite to the contrary!).  I appreciate the correction and clarification.

Humbly signed,
> jeff.hickey@edwardjones.com wrote:
> > No, you cannot display all greek characters in ANY default font.  
> > If your browser does not have a character set that matches the 
> > encoding, it will typically default to the ASCII character set, 
> > resulting in garbled text or an "empty box" to use your term.
> No.
> Firstly, the character set in use here is Unicode. There is no need to
> switch 8-bit code pages and so forth.
> Secondly, that character set is being correctly labelled and correctly
> recognised, so there is no worry about sniffing - the characters are being
> correctly transmitted.
> Thirdly, the default font may or may not have glyphs for Greek characters,
> depending on the OS. For example, I am using Windows 2000 and the default
> fonts do, indeed, have glyphs for Greek amongst others.
> Fourthly, conformant behavious on encountering a character for which there
> is no glyph is to display some symbol such as an empty box. However, if you
> select that text, copy iit and paste it into an application that *can*
> display it, the characters should all be preserved. It is an issue of
> rendering glyphs, not of understanding characters.
> Only if the browser misunderstands, or is not Unidode enabled, or the
> content is incorrectly labelled, will one get "garbage characters".
> > I understand Microsoft has INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE SUPPORT from their 
> > 'products update' site windowsupdate.microsoft.com. But you get 
> > fonts "they choose" do give you. 
> Right, but you are free to purchase or download other ones. In general, the
> language packs are providing additionaldisplay capability for the OS, as
> well as just fonts.
> > I don't believe, Netscape provides language packs. 
> Thats because they are providing a browser, not an operating system.
> > You could purchase character set fonts from Bitstream, AGFA Monotype, or Dynalab to name a few. 
> You could, but the exact same fonts used by any other application are also
> available for use in Netscape.
> > Or downloaded the language packs from Microsoft, and adapted them for use with Netscape. 
> Adapt in what way?
> >  (I've never done it myself, but have heard of it being done.) 
> Right ;-)
> > Be sure in EDIT<PREFERENCES<Appearances<FONT you select "Use my deault_fonts, overriding document-specified fonts", so you maintain control of the fonts you are capable of displaying.
> This is completely unnecessary. And inded, for the sample page given as an
> example, doing so would actually prevent the webfonts referenced in the CSS
> being actually applied.
> --
> Chris
Received on Monday, 8 May 2000 08:56:55 UTC

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