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RE: [Comment on ITS WD] Too many places to look

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:14:04 +0100
To: "'Yves Savourel'" <ysavourel@translate.com>
Cc: <www-i18n-comments@w3.org>, <public-i18n-its@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00e401c6d72e$1b6c55f0$6601a8c0@w3cishida>

Thanks.  Satisfied.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@translate.com] 
> Sent: 11 September 2006 18:34
> To: 'Richard Ishida'
> Subject: Re: [Comment on ITS WD] Too many places to look
> 
> Hello Richard, all
> 
> This is a reply on behalf of the i18n ITS working group. See also
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3509 for our discussion.
> 
> Thank you very much for your comments.
> 
> We have implemented some of the suggestions of this comment, 
> move the section previously named 5.1 as an appendix, and 
> re-worked the section 6 to include more information. Please, see:
> http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d
> atacategory-description
> http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#i
> ts-markup-summary
> 
> Please let us know within 2 weeks if you are satisfied. If we 
> don't hear from you, we will assume this issue as closed.
> 
> Regards,
> -yves
> 
> 
> The original comments are here:
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3509
> > Issue #40 of i18nCore comments
> > http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-its/
> >
> > To get a clear picture of the data categories you need to flick 
> > between section 5.1 (which i initially ignored because i thought it 
> > was just a 'summary'), 6.1, and the data category section, plus 
> > various bits such as parts of 5.3. This is really hard work!
> > Can't we at least merge 5.1 and 6.1 into the data category 
> sections. 
> > (If we want to keep them as summaries we could make a copy in the 
> > Appendices.)
> >
> > FS: I disagree with your proposal. Merging 5.1 and 6.1 into 
> the data 
> > category sections would make spec reading *very hard* for 
> people who 
> > are interested in the general concepts of ITS, and who 
> possibly only 
> > implement a single data category.
> >
> > I18n: We are happy to repeat the information currently in 
> summary form 
> > in 6.1, butwe would still like to see that information 
> copied into the 
> > data categories.
> > We think we need to find a way to make life easy for people 
> interested 
> > in general concepts while not making it harder for people 
> who need to 
> > implement the data categories. And we think that whether 
> you want to 
> > implement one category or several, you'd be better off not having 
> > information scattered around the document.
> >
> > I strongly contend that section 5.1 should be merged into the data 
> > categories -and that at the very least it should not be entitled 
> > 'Summary' since it is not summarizing at all. A summary draws 
> > information from elsewhere and condenses it. This section 
> is setting 
> > out an initial set of information, some of which is only found here.
> > Also in the scope of the selection is specified for the 
> local case in 
> > 6.3.2 but that for the global rules (only!) is specified in 6.1.
> > This sort of inconsistency makes it worse.
> 
Received on Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:14:11 GMT

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