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RE: Comments on Charmod PR publications

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:30:29 -0000
To: "'Bjoern Hoehrmann'" <derhoermi@gmx.net>, "'Martin Duerst'" <duerst@w3.org>
Cc: <www-i18n-comments@w3.org>, "'I18N IG, for archiving only'" <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>, <member-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20050211123029.751B04F3FC@homer.w3.org>

Hi Björn,

Please confirm for the record that you are happy with the following text, as
discussed over the phone.

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This prohibits, for example, the construction of fonts that misuse the
codepoints in the ISO Latin 1 character set to represent different scripts,
characters, or symbols than what is actually encoded in iso-8859-1.
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Thanks.

Richard.




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: member-i18n-core-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:member-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bjoern Hoehrmann
> Sent: 09 February 2005 00:49
> To: Martin Duerst
> Cc: www-i18n-comments@w3.org; I18N IG, for archiving only; 
> member-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Comments on Charmod PR publications
> 
> 
> * Martin Duerst wrote:
> >It is just the mention of iso-8859-1 that is crucial in this 
> context, 
> >as it was most often misused. People put up a page in an arbitrary 
> >8-bit encoding, labeled it as iso-8859-1, and constructed a 
> font that 
> >made things look right. So using iso-8859-1 was explicitly 
> part of the 
> >misuse, and trying to avoid mentioning it just obscures the issue.
> 
> Maybe you can cite an example web page and a freely available 
> font that demonstrates the misuse you have in mind? Do you 
> mean that it matters that the web page is encoded using 
> ISO-8859-1? That would be weird as HTML/XHTML require that 
> text processing happens essentially independend of the 
> character encoding. So, as far as I understand the comment in 
> the current document, it refers to a font that is defined in 
> terms of ISO-8859-1; maybe you can cite font technology that 
> enables such mis- use? What I do not understand so far is why 
> a character encoding is of any significance in this context.
> 
> >If you have any ideas of how to express things with mentioning
> >iso-8859-1 (and again, not being overly complicated), that would be 
> >appreciated.
> 
> Well, to me the current text does not make any sense, so I 
> can't really make a suggestion that involves ISO-8859-1. The 
> conformance requirement now only discusses code points and 
> coded character sets, not character encodings, so the 
> requirement and the mention of ISO-8859-1 seem quite 
> orthogonal to each other.
> --
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