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Your comments on the Character Model [129. 132]

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:00:30 -0000
To: "'Steven Pemberton'" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>, <w3c-html-wg@w3.org>
Cc: <www-i18n-comments@w3.org>
Message-ID: <002801c3ecc1$f71f9030$6401a8c0@w3cishida>

Dear Steven,

Many thanks for your comments on the 2nd Last Call version of the Character
Model for the World Wide Web v1.0 [1].  We appreciate the interest you have
taken in this specification.

You can see the comments you submitted on behalf of the HTML WG, grouped
together, at 
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/2002/charmod-lc/SortByGroup.html#C129
(You can jump to a specific comment in the table by adding its ID to the end
of the URI.)

PLEASE REVIEW the decisions for the following additional comments and reply
to us within the next two weeks at mailto:www-i18n-comments@w3.org (copying
w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org) to say whether you are satisfied with the decision
taken. 
        C129, C132

Information relating to these comments is included below.

The Character Model has recently been split into two parts. Your comments
relate to the editor's version at
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod1.html


Best regards,
Richard Ishida, for the I18N WG




DECISIONS REQUIRING A RESPONSE
==============================

C129
	E	R	C	Steven Pemberton
	HTML WG
	P	MD	3.6.3	'private agreements don't scale on the web'
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002Jul/0000.html

    * Comment (received 2002-07-03) -- 'private agreements don't scale on
the web'
      Well, they can scale. The real problem is that they don't
interoperate.
    * Decision: Rejected.
    * Rationale: We believe that private agreements indeed do not scale on
the Web. The text already contains the explanation why this is so: "Code
points from different private agreements may collide. Also a private
agreement, and therefore the meaning of the code points, can quickly become
lost." (slight editorial changes from the LC version) The collision problem
already exists for two private agreements, and very quickly increases with
the number of agreements.


C132
	E	P	 	Steven Pemberton
	HTML WG
	P	FY	3.3	Give example of transcoding

    * Comment (received 2002-07-03) -- Give example of transcoding
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002Jul/0003.html
    * Comment (received 2002-07-05) -- Re: Give example of transcoding
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002Jul/0005.html
      It would be useful if 3.3 gave an example of where transcoding is
used, since this is a frequently misunderstood point with regards to XML and
HTML. People (and some UAs) think that the encoding also specifies the
repertoire/CCS.
      Something along the lines of:
      'For example, in XML and HTML, documents are always in Unicode, but
they may be delivered to a user agent in an encoding for another coded
character set (indicated by the encoding attribute in XML, and the HTTP
content-type header in HTML). The user agent then transcodes the characters
of the incoming document stream into Unicode code points. For example, a
document delivered with encoding iso-8859-2 may contain the string
'o&#x0151;' where the first character (LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DOUBLE
ACUTE) is at code point 0xf5 in iso-8859-2. This will be transcoded so that
there will be two identical characters at (Unicode) code point 0x0151 in the
document as processed by the user agent.'
    * Decision: Partially accepted. Add an example of transcoding.
    * Rationale: Steven's example is too HTML-specific, and doesn't match
with what we say, namely that transcoders don't resolve NCRs.
    * Comment (received 2003-05-01) -- Re: Your comments on the Character
Model [C130, C131]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2003May/0010.html
    * Our response (sent 2003-05-08) -- RE: Your comments on the Character
Model [C130, C131]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2003May/0016.html
    * Comment (received 2003-05-09) -- RE: Your comments on the Character
Model [C130, C131]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2003May/0017.html
   * Our response (sent 2004-02-03) -- RE: Your comments on the Character
Model [C130, C131]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2004Feb/0002.html



USEFUL LINKS
==============
[1] The version of CharMod you commented on: 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-charmod-20020430/
[2] Latest editor's version (still being edited): 
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod1.html
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod2.html
[3] Last Call comments table, sorted by ID: 
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/2002/charmod-lc/
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