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Your comments on the Character Model [C060, C061]

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:00:27 -0000
To: <fallside@us.ibm.com>
Cc: <w3c-xml-protocol-wg@w3.org>, <www-i18n-comments@w3.org>
Message-ID: <002701c3ecc1$f556b710$6401a8c0@w3cishida>

Dear David,

Many thanks for your comments on the 2nd Last Call version of the Character
Model for the World Wide Web v1.0 [1].  We appreciate the interest you have
taken in this specification.

You can see the comments you submitted on behalf of the XMLP WG, grouped
together, at 
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/2002/charmod-lc/SortByGroup.html#C060
(You can jump to a specific comment in the table by adding its ID to the end
of the URI.)


PLEASE REVIEW the decisions for the following additional comments and reply
to us within the next two weeks at mailto:www-i18n-comments@w3.org (copying
w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org) to say whether you are satisfied with the decision
taken. 
        C060, C061

Information relating to these comments is included below. You will receive
notification of decisions on remaining comments at a later date.

The Character Model has recently been split into two parts. These comments
relate to the editor's version at
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod1.html

Best regards,
Richard Ishida, for the I18N WG




DECISIONS REQUIRING A RESPONSE
==============================

C060
	Na	Na	C	David Fallside
	XMLP WG
	P	MD	2	XML Protocol LC#2 review question on
implementation testing

    * Comment (received 2002-05-30) -- XML Protocol LC#2 review question on
implementation testing
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002May/0029.html
      In reviewing the Charmod LC#2, the XML Protocol WG has a request in
relation to implementation conformance.
      - Section 2 Conformance, 3rd paragraph, last sentence
      - '[S] [I] [C] In order to conform to this document, specifications
MUST NOT violate any requirements preceded by [S], software MUST NOT violate
any requirements preceded by [I], and content MUST NOT violate any
requirements preceded by [C].'
      - The XML Protocol WG has produced a protocol specification, which
makes various testable assertions, as well as a Collection of Tests
[http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/2/03/11/soap-1.2-conformance.html] each
showing whether an assertion is implemented in the protocol processor. As
such, the tests do not check for conformance to other specifications (e.g.
XML 1.0). The XML Protocol WG asks the I18n WG to comment on whether the [I]
implementation requirements of Charmod apply to the XMLP Test Collection.
    * Decision: Not applicable
    * Rationale: We have classified this comment as 'not applicable',
because it is a question, not a comment leading to a potential change of the
Character Model. The test suite should test for CharMod-related requirements
in the specification(s) being tested. The tests should conform to [C]
requirements (except where they are wrong on purpose). If the test
collection includes code, then that should also conform to [I] requirements.




C061
	E	Na	N	David Fallside
	XMLP WG
	P	MD	1.1	'All W3C specifications must conform to this
document'

    * Comment (received 2002-05-30) -- XMLP WG response to Charmod LC#2
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-i18n-comments/2002May/0030.html
      Goals and Scope, second last paragraph
      'All W3C specifications must conform to this document (see section 2
Conformance).'
      This statement seems too comprehensive and probably needs
qualification. What about existing W3C specifications or a W3C specification
whose status is very close to LC (e.g. XMLP's)?
      Suggest: 'All W3C specifications published after [a certain date or
event such as this Charmod becoming a recommendation] must conform to this
document (... etc).'
    * Decision: Rejected
    * Rationale 'Rejected': This para states the general principle and
refers to section 2 for details. The various requirements will come into
force once the CharMod spec becomes a REC.
    * New decision: Not applicable
      Rationale: We have classified this comment as 'not applicable' because
we have been told that it is inappropriate for a W3C spec to directly
enforce requirements on other specifications, and have removed the relevant
language from section 2. We still define conformance to CharMod. We have
been instructed to request a finding from the TAG corresponding to the text
that we removed. So CharMod will be enforced by the fact of being a REC,
coupled with an eventual TAG finding and ongoing reviews of relevant specs
by the I18N WG.




USEFUL LINKS
==============
[1] The version of CharMod you commented on: 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-charmod-20020430/
[2] Latest editor's version (still being edited): 
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod1.html
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/charmod-edit/charmod2.html
[3] Last Call comments table, sorted by ID: 
http://www.w3.org/International/Group/2002/charmod-lc/
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