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Re: [widgets] [access] Naming Conflict: <access> Element

From: Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:12:28 +0100
Message-ID: <b21a10670902192312t5384ad9ekb58695733208599d@mail.gmail.com>
To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Cc: "public-webapps@w3.org" <public-webapps@w3.org>, W3C HTML Mailing List <www-html@w3.org>
HI Doug,
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
> Hi, WebApps WG and XHTML2 WG-
> There is a potential conflict between the <access> element defined in
> the Widgets 1.0: Packaging and Configuration specification [1] and the
> <access> element defined in the XHTML Access Module specification [2]
> (most recent draft also available [3]).

I have added your concerns as an issue into the tracker [4]. We will
be discussing this issue at our F2F next week and will report back
with the WebApps  WG's position.

> It may be that both are never used in the same document; <widget:access>
> is intended for use in a configuration document, while <access:access>
> is intended for (X)HTML/SVG documents.  However, both elements are
> rather loosely named, and not immediately clear in intent.

There is a significant chance that they will be used together in the future.

> I propose that both specs change the name of their element.  A better
> name for Widgets might be <securityModel> or something, and for the
> Access spec, a better name might be <keyNav>.
> Thoughts?

Personally, I'm pretty happy with the way our element is named but if
you think that the semantics as specified are ambiguous, I will make
sure to clarify them. You are correct, however, to say that our
element is mostly to do with security/access-control, so
<security[Model]> is certainly a candidate if we are going to change
the name. Having said that, I'm also happy to rely on namespaces for
the distinction between the two.

Kind regards,

> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#the-access-element
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-access/#sec_3.1.
> [3] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtml-access-20081023/
[4]  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JanMar/0511.html

Marcos Caceres
Received on Friday, 20 February 2009 07:13:15 UTC

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