- From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:00:58 -0700
- To: mjs@apple.com
- Cc: foliot@wats.ca, hsivonen@iki.fi, redux@splintered.co.uk, bzbarsky@MIT.EDU, www-html@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
Next, you'll see me eating soup at a TAG meeting and believe I like TagSoup:-) To clarify, what I said about the <b>, <i> <em> tag question was: A) At the end of the day, asserting that <em> is more semantic than <i> or that <i> is more presentational than <em> changes nothing. B) Worse, if you only have <em> and didn't have an <i>, then people will just use <em> as a synonym for <i>, and the overall markup that results actually loses, not gains semantics. C) If the only accessibility problem left on the Web was that of people using <i> tags instead of <em> tags, I'd declare victory and go home;-)! Maciej Stachowiak writes: > > > On May 3, 2007, at 8:12 AM, John Foliot - WATS.ca wrote: > > > It boils down to this: If you want to Bold some text, or italicize > > it, or > > underline it, you are doing so *for a reason*... I don't care > > really what > > the reason is, you are doing so in a visual way to indicate some > > connotation > > or other cue/clue to the end "reader", or consumer. > > You may be doing it for a reason, but articulating that reason > succinctly in words is still difficult and significantly adds to > cognitive load. > > > But if you can't *SEE* the bold, italic or underlined text, how do you > > convey that same cue/clue to the end consumer? For the sighted user, > > presentational features are not bad, but for the non-sighted, pray > > tell, how > > will you convey that same nuance? > > T.V Raman, one of the few people in this group who uses an aural > presentation full-time, has said that he likes the <b> and <i> > elements. I'll let his explanation speak for itself: <http:// > lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007JanMar/0668.html>. > > Regards, > Maciej > > > -- Best Regards, --raman Title: Research Scientist Email: raman@google.com WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ Google: tv+raman GTalk: raman@google.com, tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
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