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Re: Cleaning House

From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 09:25:44 +0100
Message-ID: <20070503092544.4la9mdx2d18g8o4w@www.splintered.co.uk>
To: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Cc: www-html@w3.org, public-html@w3.org

Quoting Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>:

> Just to reiterate, there are two questions here:
>
> 1) Should documents containing <b> and <i> be conforming HTML5 documents?
> 2) Should the HTML5 specification normatively specify parsing of
>    <b> and <i> that is compatible with existing content?

I would say:

1) no - instead, define better elements that cover those situations in  
which the elements in question are used as a last presentational  
resort, for lack of a more semantic equivalent; and if they ARE used  
purely for presentational reasons ("i just like how that word looks in  
italic"), suggest generic approaches such as an appropriately styled  
<span>.

2) yes - but make it clear that it's a special backwards-compatibility  
concession, and that it does not ratify the use of those elements; it  
could then even include the elements that Anne touched on, like  
<center>.

> Now you could argue that if UAs accept the elements authors will use
> them no matter what and ignore the conformance checkers which claim
> their documents are not conformant.

I won't argue...I'd say this discussed approach is the most realistic,  
as it allows for a "cleaner" spec, while making backwards  
compatibility concessions...but separating the two.

P
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