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Re: DogFood (and inline/block constraints)

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:38:36 +0000 (UTC)
To: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
Cc: www-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0712122336110.7107@hixie.dreamhostps.com>

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, David Carlisle wrote:
> [...] a lot of my existing content would be invalid due to the change in 
> the content model for div, not allowing mixed block level content. 
> Personally I don't mind if you invalidate my content (I'll adapt to fit 
> whatever:-) but I mention this as in general I know HTML5 design strives 
> for good comaptibility with existing content.

Yeah, this is feedback we've heard from a lot of people. We'll almost 
certainly be allowing mixtures of inlines and blocks in certain contexts.

> > However, due to legacy reasons, this can't be allowed in text/html, 
> > only XHTML. (In text/html, the <p> gets implicitly closed by the 
> > parser.)
> urg, I'd argue that that could be changed (but not in this message, 
> given your wording I'll assume that this is a given).

Yeah, the parser is basically a given. Not much we can change there.

> Would it be possible (in text/html and /xml) to hide nested lists in 
> some new inline-element-that-takes-block-content so
> <p>blah blah blah
> <inline-element-that-takes-block-content>
> <ol>
> <li....
> </inline-element-that-takes-block-content>
> more text
> </p>

That's pretty ugly. :-)

> >    
> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pkNVM1HEQs-wsHB7s1M5Lbw&hl=en
> > 
> > If you want to help out, let me know, I can add you to the list of 
> > editors on the document.
> I'm interested thanks, but to be honest I've only been half following 
> html5 (MathML and the day job taking up time:-) so would be a little 
> wary of giving me write access, not having observed any previous 
> discsussion (or implementation constraints such as the one you quote 
> above) however mostly I use d.p.carlisle@googlemail.com for google docs 
> stuff if you do wish to give me access. I may just watch the spreadsheet 
> for a while to get a feel for how things are going. I see there's a 
> parallel chat channel attatched to it.....

I've added your account. If anyone else wants to help out, please do feel 
free to do so. Let me know and I'll add your account to the list.

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