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Re: XHTML 2 current WD makes achieving WCAG 1.0-A compliance impossible; a proof

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:44:31 +0100
Message-ID: <640dd5060610120244m44e1e06amad02c701ac3d7114@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
Cc: www-html@w3.org, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>


I'm worried that you are worried! :)

I think everything is ok, but just to emphasise, I was trying to be
very precise about where the problem lies.

You point to links that indicate that these are equivalent:

    <title>About W3C</title>
    <meta property="title">About W3C</meta>

and that is true. And you are right that at a FtF in Cannes we
explained how this worked to the internationalisation gurus, and my
recollection is that they were very pleased with it. :) In fact they
initially levelled the same criticisms at XHTML 2 as Cecil has, but
once this feature was explained, they seemed happy.

However, that was only one of Cecil's points. The other was the use of
@title on <link>, and my point is simply that, although our rules
indicate that this is possible:

  <link rel="meta" href="OurICRAPolicy.rdf">
    <meta property="title">ICRA</meta>

there has been some discussion over on RDFa about changing the meaning
of this. I'm therefore saying that Cecil's post is a very useful
reminder of why we need to ensure that the mark-up I've just used
yields the correct triples to support his use-case.

So to recap:

    <meta property="title">About W3C</meta>

is not at risk...that's the easy one! The tricky one is:

  <link rel="meta" href="OurICRAPolicy.rdf">
    <meta property="title">ICRA</meta>

and we just need to double-check that we can still support this.

Sorry for not being clear...have I allayed your fears? ;)



On 12/10/06, Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:28:46 +0200, Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
> wrote:
> > I'm thinking here about
> > reification, and whether the following equivalence would be possible:
> >
> >   <link rel="meta" title="ICRA" href="OurICRAPolicy.rdf" />
> >
> >   <link rel="meta" href="OurICRAPolicy.rdf">
> >     <meta property="title">ICRA</meta>
> >   </link>
> I recall us talking about this before, with the Internationalization
> people present, and agreeing that these *are* equivalent, and exactly the
> way to do it. I'm a bit worried that you now think that these might not be
> equivalent...
> In fact the spec even quotes such equivalences:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-document.html#edef_document_title
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-metaAttributes.html#adef_metaAttributes_property
> Steven

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