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Re: [XHTML 2] Embedded Resources containing links

From: Jim Ley <jim@jibbering.com>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:02:37 +0100
Message-ID: <032c01c5642d$296aacd0$0a00000a@Snufkin>
To: "Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
Cc: <www-html@w3.org>

Moved to www-html as this is discussion on the spec.

"Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
> Jim Ley wrote:
>> and chicken.xhtml containing a link to donkey.xhtml, does the paragraph 
>> get replaced or does the parent document.
>
> I would expect this to have the same behaviour as this XHTML1/HTML4 
> fragment:

There is no defined behaviour in XHTML 1 and HTML 4, indeed there is no 
interopability between user agents here, the behaviour depends on the 
content-type of resource in different user agents.

>> Both behaviour is desirable, please provide a mechanism for the author to 
>> suggest what happens.
>
> target="_parent" or target="_top" would serve this purpose;

They would serve the purpose in some cases, but only in cases where the sub 
document has the ability to specify a target, not all document types that 
support hyperlinking do.  It also requires changing the content of the 
embedded document, this means that it's not possible to use for example a 
SWF or Video in multiple places, some of which require the top document to 
change, others just the child.   Equally there's no mechanism to only change 
the middle of multiple nested embedded attributes.

> but are these predefined target values from HTML 4 going to be defined for 
> XHTML 2, or is XHTML 2 only going to leave all values beginning with '_' 
> as reserved and with no defined meaning?

Can I suggest you raise this as a seperate issue, it's very logical, and the 
Working Group members have suggested that seperate issues are easiest to 
track rather than including it with mine (which is why of course I just sent 
40 odd seperate ones, when previously I would've normally sent many of them 
all together as a single issue - the ones against ismap/usemap for example.)

Regards,

Jim Ley. 
Received on Sunday, 29 May 2005 09:02:56 UTC

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