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cite, blockquote, quote

From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:36:11 -0400
Message-Id: <a05210614baf2d3616d13@[10.0.1.2]>
To: www-html@w3.org

Too many mechanisms to do the same thing or things we should interoperate.

The XHTML 2.0 spec is not verbose enough on the right way to use this 
different element.

Exemple
===================
<p>in a poem of <cite>Rainer Maria Rilke</cite>,
<cite xml:lang="fr">Portrait Intérieur</cite>,
you can read
<quote
	xml:lang="fr"
	cite="http://poesie.webnet.fr/poemes/Autriche/rilke/32.html">
	par la force d'un beau désir.
</quote>
and you should read this another poem of <cite>Paul Arène</cite>, 
<cite xml:lang="fr">Mobilier scolaire</cite>: </p>


<blockquote
	cite="http://poesie.webnet.fr/poemes/Autriche/rilke/32.html"
	xml:lang="fr">

<p>
	<l>Ce ne sont pas des souvenirs</l>
	<l>qui, en moi, t'entretiennent ;</l>
	<l>tu n'es pas non plus mienne</l>
	<l>par la force d'un beau désir.</l>
</p>
</blockquote>

<blockquote
	cite="http://poesie.webnet.fr/poemes/France/arene/1.html"
	xml:lang="fr">
<p>
	<l>L'école était charmante au temps des hannetons,</l>
	<l>Quand, par la vitre ouverte aux brises printanières,</l>
	<l>Pénétraient, nous parlant d'écoles buissonnières</l>
	<l>Et mettant la folie en nos jeunes cerveaux,</l>
	<l>Des cris d'oiseaux dans les senteurs des foins nouveaux</l>
</blockquote>
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Issues:

- How do i know that cite contains an author or a title or something else:
	<cite>Rainer Maria Rilke</cite>

    (if we use class for it we have to normalize the value, same problems)

- How do I know <cite>Rainer Maria Rilke</cite> is related to
	1. <cite xml:lang="fr">Portrait Intérieur</cite>
	2. <quote
	xml:lang="fr"
	cite="http://poesie.webnet.fr/poemes/Autriche/rilke/32.html">
	par la force d'un beau désir.
	</quote>
	3. to the blockquote

	and not to <cite xml:lang="fr">Mobilier scolaire</cite>

Why:

- if we have a mechanism which relates the element together it 
becomes easy to have an analysis system of your citation which is 
completely interoperable between people. Right now, it relies only on 
your personal writing conventions.


-- 
Karl Dubost / W3C - Conformance Manager
           http://www.w3.org/QA/

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