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Re: embed element

From: Sigurd Lerstad <sigler@bredband.no>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:36:40 +0100
Message-ID: <041101c2ed74$ef81b6c0$5d1273d5@mmstudio>
To: <www-html@w3.org>

>
> On 3/18/03 6:56 AM, "Sigurd Lerstad" <sigler@bredband.no> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Looking at the svg test suites. The frame-based version uses <embed> (go
> > figure :) But I can't find in any of the (x)html specs any reference to
the
> > <embed> element. I know this element is deprecated. Or maybe it's never
been
> > a standard, but just something netscape came up with? But why are the
svg
> > test suites using it instead of <object> or <iframe> ?
> >
> > Why am I asking? Because I'm making a XHTML+SVG UA and I'd like users of
my
> > UA to view the svg test suites. And in order to do that I must now
implement
> > support for the <embed> element (really annoying really :)
> >
> > Where is the definition for <embed>?
>
> The first principle of W3C CSS test suites is: Valid Tests.
>
>  http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/testsuitedocumentation#validtests
>
> Tests should _only_ be invalid if they are specifically testing error
> conditions that require invalidity.  It doesn't sound like from your
> question that <embed> is being used to test to make sure <embed> doesn't
> work since it is not a valid HTML tag. ;-)
>
> I am proposing that the HTML test suites adopt these same principles.
>
> I am surprised that the SVG test suite would have invalid tests.
>

I'm not saying that the SVG test suites are invalid by themselves, but when
you select frame-based view of the tests, the html page for each test
contains two embed elements, one linking to the svg file and another to a
png image. And I have questions about the embed element, not the svg test
suites, which are fine by me.

So where in the html specs is embed defined? If it's not defined, why have
the svg test suite guys chosen to use the embed tag instead of the more
appropriate <object> or <iframe> tags?

thanks again,

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Sigurd Lerstad
Received on Monday, 17 March 2003 20:33:39 GMT

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