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Re: Clarification needed on ALT/TITLE tooltips

From: Jason M. Kikta <kiktajm@muohio.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:33:07 -0400
Message-ID: <3EFB5883.1040101@muohio.edu>
To: www-html@w3.org

I think he was saying (as others have) that Microsoft should have gone 
with the superior IE5/Mac codebase and ported it to Windows, rather than 
  trying (and failing) to fix its Windows cousin. Also, the official 
word is that IE will no longer be made for Mac and will no longer be a 
stand-alone version in Windows. Somewhat amusing, since they had always 
claimed that it *wasn't* standalone _and_ was non-removable in its 
Windows incarnation.

Jason


Tantek Çelik wrote:
> On 6/26/03 6:57 AM, "Brian Bober" <netdemonz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Isn't IE for Mac being canned, though?
> 
> 
> My understanding of the announcements is that there will be no more major
> revisions to a stand-alone IE period (on any platform).
> 
> 
>>I guess they will still continue to use
>>tasman for MSN?
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
>>I'm not trying to brag, but Microsoft could learn a bit from Mozilla having
>>the same codebase on every platform.
> 
> 
> It's not as black and white as you put it.  Having a separate codebase
> allowed Tasman to develop at much faster speed (than either IE/Windows or
> Mozilla), and thus IE5/Mac shipped in March of 2000, with standards support
> far ahead of any other browser (including Mozilla, whose NS6 release weeks
> later merely proved my point, since reviews universally panned NS6 in
> comparison to IE5/Mac), which was also confirmed in numerous reviews.
> 
> Also, IE6/Windows benefited from many of the innovations that Tasman was
> able to make since it was a separate code base that could attempt solving
> problems that were deemed risky or even impossible (e.g. fixing the box
> model, DOCTYPE switching etc.), solutions that were also copied by Mozilla
> (and other browsers) for that matter.
> 
> So there are advantages/disadvantages with either approach.
> 
> 
>>--- Asbj?rn_Ulsberg <asbjorn.ulsberg@nrk.no> wrote:
>>
>>>Tantek ?elik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Note that Internet Explorer for Macintosh behaves properly
>>>>in this regard since version 5 released in March of 2000,
>>>>that is, only displaying the 'title' attribute in tooltips,
>>>>and NOT displaying the 'alt' attribute in tooltips.
>>>
>>>Ok. Nice to know. This points out the extreme stupidity of
>>>having two seperate developing teams working on IE for Mac
>>>and IE for Windows.
> 
> 
> So you are saying it would have been less stupid to simply port IE for
> Windows to the Mac (which is what would have happened with only one team),
> and then have it also incorrectly display 'alt' attributes in tooltips
> rather than have it actually behave correctly?  Please recheck your logic.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tantek
> 
> 
Received on Thursday, 26 June 2003 16:27:14 GMT

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