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Re: Revision efforts (was: The HTML Element)

From: Jens Meiert <jens.meiert@erde3.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:39:23 +0200 (MEST)
To: www-html@w3.org, Toby A Inkster <tobyink@goddamn.co.uk>
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> <code /> and <kbd /> are not formatting elements. <code /> is used to 
> mark up a span of computer code. <kbd /> is used to mark up computer 
> input (for example: Press <kbd>Ctrl</kbd>+<kbd>A</kbd>.)

Yes, but they are primary used to visually emphasize their content.

> CSS is a separate technology. There are browsers that don't support CSS 
> and I certain CSS agents that don't support XHTML.

Right, and there is no (as it cannot be) user-agent supporting XHTML 2,
either.  All the development of a XHTML 2 standard is based on the future need of
a interpreting user-agent, and this UA should -- CMIIW -- support both XHTML
as CSS for visualization.

> I'm not entirely sure you understand what XHTML is for...

Very constructive, thank you. Do you?


-- And what about a nearer cooperation between XHTML and CSS WG's?


 Jens Meiert.



> On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 08:44:56AM +0200, Jens Meiert wrote:
> | Why keep some only-formatting elements like <code />, <kbd />, <tt />
> (ma
> ybe
> | some of them were thrown away, I am not sure), when CSS offers a much
> bet
> ter
> | implementation? 
> 
> <code /> and <kbd /> are not formatting elements. <code /> is used to 
> mark up a span of computer code. <kbd /> is used to mark up computer 
> input (for example: Press <kbd>Ctrl</kbd>+<kbd>A</kbd>.)
> 
> <tt /> has already been removed (AFAIK).
> 
> | Why even introduce elements like <l /> instead of referring
> | completely to CSS, 
> 
> CSS is a separate technology. There are browsers that don't support CSS 
> and I certain CSS agents that don't support XHTML.
> 
> | e.g. by engaging every developer to use a 'display:
> | block;' property to paragraphs (although there are even possibilities to
>  
> | get rid of <p />, too)? CSS is powerful enough.
> 
> I'm not entirely sure you understand what XHTML is for...
> 
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