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Re: XHTML 2.0 considered harmful

From: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:56:26 -0500
Message-Id: <200301161856.NAA18286@nerd-xing.mit.edu>
To: "Christoph PXper" <christoph@paeper.de>
cc: "www html w3.org" <www-html@w3.org>

> It's like "HTML4/CSS2 are fully sufficient for the web, if correctly
> implemented, but we have to do *something* new once in a while."

HTML4/CSS2 are pretty _in_sufficient.  For example, something as simple as
vertically centering some content in a box (designers want to do this all the
time) is basically impossible with CSS (there are ways to attempt it with
positioning; last I checked not a single browser on the market got them "right"
and they require incredibly intricate knowledge of the spec to write at all)
and rather harder than it should be with HTML4 (involves using tables and
valign and such).

Perhaps we should face up to the fact that we really do need two distinct
languages -- a UI-creation language and a content-presentation language?

Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
                                       -- Susan Ertz
Received on Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:02:30 UTC

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