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Re[2]: Proposal for XHTML 2.0: The <footnote> element

From: Alexander Savenkov <w3@hotbox.ru>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:00:45 +0300
Message-ID: <902740454.20030115130045@hotbox.ru>
To: www-html@w3.org, Christoph Pńper <christoph.paeper@tu-clausthal.de>

Hello,

>> on 15-01-2003 1:16, Herr Christian Wolfgang Hujer at
>>> Am Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2003 00:29 schrieb Jonas J°rgensen:
>>>
>>>> I hereby propose for inclusion in XHTML 2.0 a <footnote> element for
>>>> marking up footnotes.
> This, as well as concerning properties for CSS (e.g. display:footnote), is
> being suggested every once in a while. IIRC it has even ben mentioned in
> either HTML+ or HTML 3.0 draft.
The current approach is as follows (borrowed example from the CSS3 Lists):
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN">
<HTML>
 <HEAD>
  <TITLE>Markers to create numbered notes4>/TITLE>
  <STYLE type="text/css">
   P { margin-left: 12 em; }
   P.Note::marker {
      content: url("note.gif") "Note " counter(note-counter) ":";
      text-align: left;
      width: 10em;
   }
   P.Note {
     display: list-item;
     counter-increment: note-counter;
   }
  </STYLE>
 </HEAD>
 <BODY>
  <P>This is the first paragraph in this document.</P>
  <P CLASS="Note">This is a very short document.</P>
  <P>This is the end.</P>
 </BODY>
</HTML>

Which results in the following:

            This is the first paragraph
            in this document.

  Note 1:   This is a very short
            document.
          
            This is the end.

>>> But I'd not call if footnote - I think it should be more generic since
> one
>>> might want to use if for the bibliography or glossary as well.
> Those are better put separately in an appropriate document. This is then
> linked with rel="glossary".
OR the <ruby> collection. Which also allows to be
backwards-compatible.

>> Probably the better way is to choose some default styles for the most used
>> types for the browsers:
> In HTML???▀ You have to have meant CSS.
Nah. :) Lorenzo always means HTML.

> Ceterum censeo footnotes are to be used with paged media only. (In the
> traditional sense of "placed at the end of the page/document".)
I agree. No special media-specific element should be introduced. The
current CSS work allows you to customize the *existing* ones.

Regards,
---
  Alexander "Croll" Savenkov                  http://www.thecroll.com/
  w3@hotbox.ru                                     http://croll.da.ru/
Received on Wednesday, 15 January 2003 05:03:58 GMT

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