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Re: Flash

From: Lee Roberts <pentagon@starband.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:25:04 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <3C405647.2070905@starband.net>
To: www-html@w3.org
Strange how you seem to think that the question of Flash inclusion is 
incorrect in placing in this forum.  Obviously you miss the entire point 
of the initial question.  The young man wanted assistance on how to 
correctly (within the standards include Flash).  The question can be 
ported to any <object>/<embed> situation including PNG, Shockwave or 
anything else that until the <embed> element was removed met compliancy.

I have the same problem.  Regardless of how it is done and what DTD is 
used the <embed> fails because it is no longer supported.  However, all 
the earlier NN browsers and those using the NN plug-in format require 
<embed> versus <object>.

It makes no sense as to why the <embed> was removed while the Consortium 
knew it was still being used by NN.  Your issues, lacking a concern for 
compliancy, are strange indeed.  Obviously there are some fashionable 
words and phrases that could be used to discribe the situation more 
colorfully, but that would not be professional.

Now that we have the issues in the clear and that this is a place to 
discuss the formalities of the HTML language, I'll do just that.  Why 
was the <embed> element removed?  Who failed to see the implications of 
doing such?  Was it a factor that either MM or NN was not cared for and 
therefore designing pages to meet NN would be incorrect.  Or was it that 
those changes were done to remove alternate media content from the 
approved HTML structures?

Now, I'm quite clear that my question lies only in the why and what of 
the HTML approved codes.  Certainly, this is the format to answer my 
question.  Now, I'll add one more point.  What is the approved work 
around since the <embed> element is not used?

Lee Roberts
an old ARPAnet programmer
Received on Sunday, 13 January 2002 23:12:36 UTC

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