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Re: ? what to do ?

From: Robert Koberg <rob@koberg.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:30:53 -0800
Message-ID: <16b001c19859$770b8700$6501a8c0@TILLER>
To: "Christian Wolfgang Hujer" <Christian.Hujer@itcqis.com>, <www-html@w3.org>
How would you use forms to create a document like this:

<body>
<h1>title blah</h1>
<p>a para graph that has arbitrary <strong>bold text</strong</p>
<p> then maybe an image underneath here</p>
<img src="blah.gif" alt="blah"/>
<h2>sub section title</h2>
<ol>
<li>one</li>
<li>two</li>
<li>three</li>
</ol>
</body>

oops, no, I meant:

<body>
<h1>title blah</h1>
<ol>
<li>one</li>
<li>two</li>
<li>three</li>
</ol>
<p>a para graph that has arbitrary <strong>bold text</strong</p>
<h2>sub section title</h2>
<p> then maybe an image underneath here</p>
<img src="blah.gif" alt="blah"/>
</body>

My point is that writing an arbitray 'article' document is extremely
difficult with forms.  I have been working for major publishers and used
many of the form based solutions. The editors HATE them. Why not just flip
the switch to turn on inline editing? I have an editor i am getting ready to
release that does just that for IE5.5+. I would like to eventually support
other browsers/systems but most people don't seem to be aware that such
functionality can exist.

But your point about using CSS sound interesting. I guess I will ask them
about it :)

thanks,
-Rob



----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Wolfgang Hujer" <Christian.Hujer@itcqis.com>
To: "Robert Koberg" <rob@koberg.com>; <www-html@w3.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:04 AM
Subject: RE: ? what to do ?


> Hello,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-html-request@w3.org [mailto:www-html-request@w3.org]On Behalf
> > Of Robert Koberg
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:44 PM
> > To: www-html@w3.org
> > Subject: ? what to do ?
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > A few weeks ago I had asked about the possibility of putting the
> > block-level
> > attribute 'contentEditable'[1] into the standard.  There was no
> > response on
> > that issue.  I was wondering if there was a better place to post the
> > question? Can someone address it here?
> >
> > I don't feel this is a ridiculous request. Didn't TBL envision
> > this type of
> > thing?
> >
> > best,
> > -Rob
> >
> > [1] For example:
> >
> > <!-- edit specific page components -->
> > <h1 contentEditable="yes">My title</h1>
> > <p contentEditable="yes">The paragraph blah blah blah</p>
> >
> > or
> > <!-- free-form editing -->
> > <span contentEditable="yes">
> > <h1>My title</h1>
> > <p>The paragraph blah blah blah</p>
> > </span>
> >
> > The browser sees that certain parts of the page and allows
> > editing. The page
> > developer creates a form or (uses javascript to write a form
dynamically)
> > and assigns the newly revised html to a hidden field which is submitted
to
> > the server for whatever.
>
> I think it is time to wait what the XForms group will develop for future
XML
> forms (which probably will replace HTML forms), and anyway,
contentEditable
> is an attribute that has no structural meaning, so it belongs to CSS, not
to
> HTML.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
>
> Greetings and a happy new year
>
>
> Christian Hujer
Received on Tuesday, 8 January 2002 10:34:03 GMT

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