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RE: HTML block/inline != CSS block/inline (was Re: UL - Block or Inline?)

From: Jonathan Rosenne <rosenne@qsm.co.il>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:06:08 +0200
To: www-html@w3.org
Message-id: <NDBBIFGHGLJILJGHOEELIEDJDBAA.rosenne@qsm.co.il>
Please note that the dir attribute has different meanings for block and inline
elements.

Jony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-html-request@w3.org [mailto:www-html-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Tantek Celik
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:00 PM
> To: Dave J Woolley; 'www-html@w3.org'
> Subject: HTML block/inline != CSS block/inline (was Re: UL - Block or Inline?)
>
>
> From: Dave  J Woolley <david.woolley@bts.co.uk>
> Date: Wed, Jan 31, 2001, 11:35 AM
>
> >> From: pdf@bizfon.com [SMTP:pdf@bizfon.com]
> >>
> >> Am I looking in the wrong place?
> > [DJW:]
> > The definitive place is the DTD, taken in this
> > case from the HTML 4.01 specification (PDF version) -
> > <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html> for the HTML
> > verson:
> >
> > <!ENTITY % list "UL | OL">
> > ...
> >
> >
> > <!ENTITY % block
> > "P | %heading; | %list; | %preformatted; | DL | DIV | NOSCRIPT |
> >  BLOCKQUOTE | FORM | HR | TABLE | FIELDSET | ADDRESS">
> >
> >  [DJW:]  It's defnitely a block element.
>
> An _HTML_ block element to be specific.
>
>
> >> The reason I ask (off topic) is because I notice strange behavior (in IE
> >> and
> >> Netscape) with lists when there is an item floated to the left of the
> >> list, and
> >> I wanted to get a better understanding of where the list marker (the disc,
> >> etc.)
> >> fits into the picture, so that I might find a work around for existing
> >> agents
> >> that display it incorrectly.
> >  [DJW:]
> >  You might want to note that list items are treated
> >  as a special case in CSS, i.e. neither block nor inline.
> > [DJW:]
>
>
> We really need a FAQ for this list, for this question/misunderstanding seems
> to come up perhaps every six months.
>
> HTML block vs. inline
>
>  is not the same as
>
> CSS display:block, display:inline
>
>
> HTML's notion of block vs. inline is essentially that of containment rules.
> E.g. what elements can be nested inside what other elements.
>
> CSS's notion of block-level or inline-level display is purely
> layout/presentation related, and has nothing to do with element nesting or
> containment.
>
> Now, typically the _default_ presentation of HTML block elements is
> display:block, and the default presentation of HTML inline elements is
> display:inline.  This just serves to further the confusion of course.
>
> However, any HTML block element can be styled to be "display:inline", and
> any HTML inline element can be styled to be "display:block".
>
>
> Tantek
>
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>
Received on Wednesday, 31 January 2001 15:18:19 GMT

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