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Re: XHTML/XML comment

From: Nir Dagan <nir@nirdagan.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:54:21 -0500
Message-Id: <200001311452.JAA25805@vega.brown.edu>
To: Vidiot <vidiot@vidiot.com>, www-html@w3.org
>You've got to be kidding.  There are millions of HTML pages that
>exist ...   How many CGI
>scripts exist that will not parse &amp;.

The CGI script will never see the &amp; It is the browser's 
responsibility to parse the XML and send a correct request.


At 09:58 PM 1/30/00 -0500, Vidiot wrote:
>I just printed the XHTML 1.0 document and an floored by the
>   4.2 Element and attribute names must be in lower case.
>   4.3 For non-empty elements, end tags are required.
>   4.4 Attribute values must always be quoted.
>   4.6 Empty Elements.
>   C.12 Using Ampersands in Attribute Values
>You've got to be kidding.  There are millions of HTML pages that
>exist that use case insensitive elements and attribute.  Same
>thing applies to elements like BASE and BR.  How many CGI
>scripts exist that will not parse &amp;.
>Guess I won't be using XHTML/XML any time in the near future.
>I'll be damned if I am going to go through the 59,524 HTML
>pages the I currently have and make them XHTML compliant.
>I do try and do 4.4, but all of my documents are not perfect
>in that regard.  I prefer CAPS for elements for readability,
>as I HAND EDIT all of my HTML documents using asWedit.
>I am totally confused as to why the W3C would go the over-the-top
>restrictive route.  How are you going to convince people to use
>XHMTL with so many restrictions?  You certainly haven't convinced
>me that I should change.  To tell millions of people who create
>web pages that "by the way, forget everything you ever knew about
>making web pages" is not going to go over very well at all.
>Of course, what I wrote above is personal opinion.  But, I am one
>of millions of web page creators and I am not impressed with
>XHTML/XML at all.
>I'll be dead before I go the XHTML route.
>Mike Brown
>e-mail: vidiot@vidiot.com
>    Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys?  Lisa: They must have
>    programmed it to eliminate the competition.  Bart: You mean like
>    Microsoft?  Lisa: Exactly.  [The Simpsons - 12/18/99]
>Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/  (Your link to Star Trek and UPN)
Nir Dagan
Assistant Professor of Economics
Brown University 
Providence, RI

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