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Re: So, what's left?

From: Nir Dagan <nir@nirdagan.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:34:52 -0500
Message-Id: <200001250231.VAA27791@vega.brown.edu>
To: dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley), www-html@w3.org
Another related document is 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01
A IETF draft describing HTML (IIIR Working Group, June 1993)
By Berners-Lee and Connolly.

It has a description of the <img> tag as an empty element.
It points out that <img> has two attributes: SRC, ALIGN, and ALT.
(thus implying that one attribute was added at a later stage of editing)
It does not discuss the reasoning for the emptiness of <img>

Another intersting section:
"                         LINK RELATIONSHIP VALUES
                                  
   Status: This list is not part of the standard.  It is intended to
   illustrate the use of link relationships and to provide a framework
   for further development."

This section includes the EMBED and PRESENT relation values. Their 
interpretation is indeed consistent with example Daniel presented below.

Nir.

At 06:22 PM 1/24/00 -0500, Daniel S. Riley wrote:
>David Wagner <dwagner@kevric.com> writes:
>> (I always wondered why <img> is an empty element with an alt
>> attribute, rather than an element whose content is rendered if the
>> UA cannot display it,
>
>Because almost 7 years ago, Marc Andreessen didn't listen to Tim
>Berners-Lee when Tim suggested something like[1]
>
>  <a name=fig1 href="fghjkdfghj" REL="EMBED, PRESENT">Figure</a>
>
>instead of <img>.  I often wonder what HTML would look like now
>if Marc had listened to Tim.
>
>[1] I'd like to cite a reference for this, but I can't find a
>www-talk archive that goes back to February of 1993--www.eit.com
>is long gone, gummo.stanford.edu has lost its content,
>
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-talk/
>
>is missing 1993 and 1994,
>
>http://sh.w3.mag.keio.ac.jp/Style/History/www.eit.com/www.lists/
>
>is missing www-talk.1993q1.  I find the apparent loss of this
>history very depressing.  Well, since I can't find an archive,
>I'll offer
>
>http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~dsr/9302261304.AA05957.txt
>http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~dsr/9302261712.AA06142.txt
>
>from my personal mailbox.
>-- 
>Dan Riley                                         dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu
>Wilson Lab, Cornell University      <URL:http://www.lns.cornell.edu/~dsr/>
>    "History teaches us that days like this are best spent in bed"
> 
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Nir Dagan
Assistant Professor of Economics
Brown University 
Providence, RI
USA

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