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From: Arjun Ray <aray@q2.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:00:52 -0500 (EST)
To: www-html@w3.org
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On 17 Jan 2000 rev-bob@gotc.com wrote:

> > Perhaps there can be some style attribute that will allow the client
> > to differentiate between static and dynamic elements of a page.
> > Coming from a programming perspective, I can see how that is going
> > to be extremely difficult.
> 
> IIRC, it's not a style solution.  Look at XLink; it should provide for
> this.  Combine a DIV that has a unique ID with one of XLink's new
> inclusion methods, and you really aren't far away from frames.  [...]
> I do believe XLink lets you bring the contents of a link into the
> current page as a replacement for the contents of an ID'd element....

Yes, that rates to be a better approach.  The key factor, though, is that
a "framed" context is inherently a compound document with independent
"moving pieces".  So, it's a confusion of the part with the whole to
shoehorn frames into 'text/html': the better idea surely is to recognize
the fact of compounding and start with another Media/MIME type - something
that explicitly captures/formalizes the aggregation, and further, ensures
that such compound documents are delivered only if client agents *ask* for
them.  

That's not to say that sufficiently ingenious use of XLink might not
provide a decent solution: links are one way to scope the extent of a
compound document type, and XLink has plenty of ideas from HyTime.  In
fact, the subject was discussed at least once a long time back:

   http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=140164277   
   http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=140326126
   http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=140608365


Arjun
   
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